Why is he bowing to a mayor?

[TheLonelySquire]

Do you remember when bush kissed a Saudi prince and then held hands with him like they're two star-crosssed teenage lovers after the Spring Formal?

Maybe if you have such a problem with my asking about Obama bowing you should not be doing the same with regard to 43?

That's our point.

We didn't care then. We don't care now. The fact that you and FOX are making a big deal about this when they ignored Bush's bowing, kissing, and hand-holding (and I can only assume oral sex) shows us how much of a hypocrite they...and anyone who happens to believe any of the shit they pump out.

Who's we?

4-5x the amount of Americans watch Fox News than ANY other cable news network. People who aren't drinking the Kool-aid know they are fair and balanced and the others are not. That's why the others get absolutely hammered day after day, week after week, and year after year.

I'll give MSNBC one thing though. At least Joe Scarborough had seen enough.

 

[TheLonelySquire]

Now, there are several other definitions as well...

Well there's your problem.

You're right. As an American I'm embarassed for him.

 

[Amaris]

Maybe if you have such a problem with my asking about Obama bowing you should not be doing the same with regard to 43?

That's our point.

We didn't care then. We don't care now. The fact that you and FOX are making a big deal about this when they ignored Bush's bowing, kissing, and hand-holding (and I can only assume oral sex) shows us how much of a hypocrite they...and anyone who happens to believe any of the shit they pump out.

Who's we?

4-5x the amount of Americans watch Fox News than ANY other cable news network. People who aren't drinking the Kool-aid know they are fair and balanced and the others are not. That's why the others get absolutely hammered day after day, week after week, and year after year.

I'll give MSNBC one thing though. At least Joe Scarborough had seen enough.

FOX is not fair and balanced. Neither is CNN or MSNBC. It is difficult to find balance, so it is wise to examine several sources before accepting something as accurate. All FOX does is reinforce one viewpoint. They are popular because they reinforce a viewpoint. People like hearing what they want to hear, and FOX, among others, has that in spades.

 

[Squiggy]

Maybe if you have such a problem with my asking about Obama bowing you should not be doing the same with regard to 43?

That's our point.

We didn't care then. We don't care now. The fact that you and FOX are making a big deal about this when they ignored Bush's bowing, kissing, and hand-holding (and I can only assume oral sex) shows us how much of a hypocrite they...and anyone who happens to believe any of the shit they pump out.

Who's we?

4-5x the amount of Americans watch Fox News than ANY other cable news network. People who aren't drinking the Kool-aid know they are fair and balanced and the others are not. That's why the others get absolutely hammered day after day, week after week, and year after year.

I'll give MSNBC one thing though. At least Joe Scarborough had seen enough.

Even FOX has admitted their lineup isn't fair or balanced. And ratings isn't a badge of competence. If it was then American Idol would be the greatest art form ever devised by man.

 

[RoJoHen]

That's our point.

We didn't care then. We don't care now. The fact that you and FOX are making a big deal about this when they ignored Bush's bowing, kissing, and hand-holding (and I can only assume oral sex) shows us how much of a hypocrite they...and anyone who happens to believe any of the shit they pump out.

Who's we?

4-5x the amount of Americans watch Fox News than ANY other cable news network. People who aren't drinking the Kool-aid know they are fair and balanced and the others are not. That's why the others get absolutely hammered day after day, week after week, and year after year.

I'll give MSNBC one thing though. At least Joe Scarborough had seen enough.

Even FOX has admitted their lineup isn't fair or balanced. And ratings isn't a badge of competence. If it was then American Idol would be the greatest art form ever devised by man.

I hear Art History majors have to study American Idol very thoroughly these days...

 

[Trekker4747]

I see bowing as less "severe" than kissing another man and holding hands with him. Especialy when the man being kissed and held is a Saudi Prince.

Isn't it normal behavior in Arabic culture? (I don't know much about things like that)

I believe it is, but the Right's claims with Obama's bowing to these men is that the President bows to no one, is subservant to no other foreign power and should maintain that image. So they get all bothered when he bows to some Chinese prince -or whatever- becuase it makes America look subservant to China.

Which begs the question on what it looks like when the President holds hands with a Saudi prince? I mean, isn't that looking just as subservant -all things being equal?

Why is it worth mentioning when Obama bows to people but they didn't flip out when Bush kissed a Saudi Arabian prince!

I mean, call me nuts, but that looks a heck of a lot more sub-servant than a simple greeting bow to the mayor of Tampa fucking Florida.

 

[RoJoHen]

I mean, call me nuts, but that looks a heck of a lot more sub-servant than a simple greeting bow to the mayor of Tampa fucking Florida.

Maybe the Mayor of Tampa is secretly the King of the World.

 

[Brian]

It's because one serves a particular agenda and the other doesn't.

That's fair and balanced, isn't it?

 

[Squiggy]

If TLS really wants to have a discussion about ratings he should look at how the lowest rated network news has about 6 times the ratings of FOX's best show.

 

[T'Baio]

I wonder if TLS realizes that the image below his name is called an avatar, and one definition of that word, according to Webster's is;

an electronic image that represents and is manipulated by a computer user

 

[Trekker4747]

Maybe if you have such a problem with my asking about Obama bowing you should not be doing the same with regard to 43?

That's our point.

We didn't care then. We don't care now. The fact that you and FOX are making a big deal about this when they ignored Bush's bowing, kissing, and hand-holding (and I can only assume oral sex) shows us how much of a hypocrite they...and anyone who happens to believe any of the shit they pump out.

Who's we?

4-5x the amount of Americans watch Fox News than ANY other cable news network. People who aren't drinking the Kool-aid know they are fair and balanced and the others are not. That's why the others get absolutely hammered day after day, week after week, and year after year.

I'll give MSNBC one thing though. At least Joe Scarborough had seen enough.

Fuck, please. Fox is as fair and balanced as a kick in the nuts.

It's been shown and proven time and time again countless times.

HERE

Read. Watch. LEARN.

And, oh yeah, keep playing that "Kool-Aid" card, Lord knows it hasn't gotten worn out over the last two fucking years.

 

[Squiggy]

And, oh yeah, keep playing that "Kool-Aid" card, Lord knows it hasn't gotten worn out over the last two fucking years.

It's pretty funny that he's calling all of us Kool-Aid drinkers while he's doing everything short of laying his life on the line to defend the honor of FNC.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

TLS, address the dictionary point if you're interested in an honest debate.

 

[opali]

Personally, I'd rather see my President palpating and clawing the only female at a meeting of powerful world leaders. It shows my daughters how they should be treated by males in power. This nonsense of men showing respect to females in authority and power needs to be dealt with swiftly.

By the way, though I'm sure it was mentioned at the time, the Japanese didn't even blink at the bow last year. This time isn't any different.

 

[Squiggy]

He's degrading the Office of the President of the United States.

Yeah. Not like this guy....

Oh, how I wish we could go back to those simpler times.

 

[Trekker4747]

He's degrading the Office of the President of the United States.

Yeah. Not like this guy....

Oh, how I wish we could go back to those simpler times.

I wish I could overlay the Price-is-Right "loser" music over him trying to open the door and then some "wah wah" music over him getting frustrated and giving up on the idea of entering the room and just shrugging helplessly.

That sums up all of Bush's Presidency. Him shrugging helplessly.

 

[The Grim Ghost]

TLS, when you question every tiny thing Obama does then it will probably make people take you less seriously when there is an actual issue worth discussing.

You remember Bush derangement syndrome? You've got Obama derangement syndrome.

This is like Hannity making fun of Obama for using dijon mustard on his burger like that means he is an elitist or something. It just makes you look like a fanatic who hates anything the man does.

 

[Amaris]

TLS, when you question every tiny thing Obama does then it will probably make people take you less seriously when there is an actual issue worth discussing.

You remember Bush derangement syndrome? You've got Obama derangement syndrome.

This is like Hannity making fun of Obama for using dijon mustard on his burger like that means he is an elitist or something. It just makes you look like a fanatic who hates anything the man does.

Oh, please, please don't tell me Hannity said anything like that.

 

[Hoser]

I KNOW. I love dijon mustard on my burger.
And I make less than Joe the plumber used to.

 

[Amaris]

I KNOW. I love dijon mustard on my burger.
And I make less than Joe the plumber used to.

Dijon mustard is delicious. I love it on a smoked turkey breast sandwich with whole wheat bread, sharp cheddar cheese, lettuce, tomato and a slice or two of bacon.