Why is he bowing to a mayor?

[WeAreTheBorg]

Gotta agree this one is dubious. I mean, either he's bowing for no reason whatsoever (and therefore should not be), or he's bowing because she's of Asian descent which is kind of un-PC.

 

[TheLonelySquire]

If you disagree, please analyze why he has a need to bow to everyone.

Because the USA is a democracy, and its leader a representative of the people elected by the people from the people. Thus he is not your master, superior or king, he is one of you. First among equals, ideally. So he shows respect for his fellows, and his way of doing it seems to be bowing. Do you want a leader to act all superior and "better", and refuse to "lower" himself to the level of the people?

Do you remember when bush kissed a Saudi prince and then held hands with him like they're two star-crosssed teenage lovers after the Spring Formal?

Maybe if you have such a problem with my asking about Obama bowing you should not be doing the same with regard to 43?

 

[Trekker4747]

Maybe if you have such a problem with my asking about Obama bowing you should not be doing the same with regard to 43?

I see bowing as less "severe" than kissing another man and holding hands with him. Especialy when the man being kissed and held is a Saudi Prince.

Nevertheless, you missed my point which was that if you're going to criticize Obama for doing something as simple as a bow which is as harmless as a handshake then one wonders how you view a President who also bows to world leaders -as show in other pics above- but also holds hands with one and kisses one.

 

[TheLonelySquire]

Maybe if you have such a problem with my asking about Obama bowing you should not be doing the same with regard to 43?

I see bowing as less "severe" than kissing another man and holding hands with him. Especialy when the man being kissed and held is a Saudi Prince.

Nevertheless, you missed my point which was that if you're going to criticize Obama for doing something as simple as a bow which is as harmless as a handshake then one wonders how you view a President who also bows to world leaders -as show in other pics above- but also holds hands with one and kisses one.

I think it's moronic for any U.S. President to do. Including GWB.

 

[Trekker4747]

Maybe if you have such a problem with my asking about Obama bowing you should not be doing the same with regard to 43?

I see bowing as less "severe" than kissing another man and holding hands with him. Especialy when the man being kissed and held is a Saudi Prince.

Nevertheless, you missed my point which was that if you're going to criticize Obama for doing something as simple as a bow which is as harmless as a handshake then one wonders how you view a President who also bows to world leaders -as show in other pics above- but also holds hands with one and kisses one.

I think it's moronic for any U.S. President to do. Including GWB.

Yet you're constantly and surprisingly tight-lipped on the whole Dub thing.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I really don't care if Obama bows to a mayor. It is indeed harmless. And it's not on the mainstream news sites, is it? So that's your (ir)relevance right there.

OTOH, maybe he's a closet Rays fan? She is the mayor of Tampa, after all.

(yes, I'm well aware he's a White Sox fan, just work with me here )

 

[RoJoHen]

I think it's moronic for any U.S. President to do. Including GWB.

But why? You keep operating from the assumption that it's a subservient gesture when plenty of people are telling you it's not.

Even so, the President is a servant of the people. Hell, he's the Lead Servant!

 

[John Picard]

I want my President to show the world he's not to be trifled with. I want MY President to flat-out punch people squarethefuckinthenose. I'm talking just cold-cock people. Then, they'll know to respect MY President and understand that the US means business.

 

[Squiggy]

Because the USA is a democracy, and its leader a representative of the people elected by the people from the people. Thus he is not your master, superior or king, he is one of you. First among equals, ideally. So he shows respect for his fellows, and his way of doing it seems to be bowing. Do you want a leader to act all superior and "better", and refuse to "lower" himself to the level of the people?

Do you remember when bush kissed a Saudi prince and then held hands with him like they're two star-crosssed teenage lovers after the Spring Formal?

Maybe if you have such a problem with my asking about Obama bowing you should not be doing the same with regard to 43?

That's our point.

We didn't care then. We don't care now. The fact that you and FOX are making a big deal about this when they ignored Bush's bowing, kissing, and hand-holding (and I can only assume oral sex) shows us how much of a hypocrite they...and anyone who happens to believe any of the shit they pump out.

 

[1001001]

I can't believe the kinds of things people get upset about. The gnashing-of-teeth and tearing-of-garments by the right wing over every innocuous little thing Obama does is almost comical.

We need something stronger than rolleyes...

 

[TheLonelySquire]

I think it's moronic for any U.S. President to do. Including GWB.

But why? You keep operating from the assumption that it's a subservient gesture when plenty of people are telling you it's not.

Even so, the President is a servant of the people. Hell, he's the Lead Servant!

That's their opinion and they're entitled to it. I happen to agree with Webster's: to bend the head, body, or knee in reverence, submission, or shame.

Now, there are several other definitions as well, but this is certainly one of them. One that I don't believe is appropriate for the President.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I see bowing as less "severe" than kissing another man and holding hands with him. Especialy when the man being kissed and held is a Saudi Prince.

Isn't it normal behavior in Arabic culture? (I don't know much about things like that)

 

[RoJoHen]

I think it's moronic for any U.S. President to do. Including GWB.

But why? You keep operating from the assumption that it's a subservient gesture when plenty of people are telling you it's not.

Even so, the President is a servant of the people. Hell, he's the Lead Servant!

That's their opinion and they're entitled to it. I happen to agree with Webster's: to bend the head, body, or knee in reverence, submission, or shame.

Now, there are several other definitions as well, but this is certainly one of them. One that I don't believe is appropriate for the President.

Well, the President is probably using one of those other definitions.

 

[Amaris]

I want my President to show the world he's not to be trifled with. I want MY President to flat-out punch people squarethefuckinthenose. I'm talking just cold-cock people. Then, they'll know to respect MY President and understand that the US means business.

I want him to punch a snooty French waiter after ordering Chowdah.

 

[Squiggy]

Now, there are several other definitions as well...

Well there's your problem.

 

[Misfit Toy]

I think this whole thread should be moved to the Fan Fiction forum.



Of all the pathetic concerns!!

 

[Arrqh]

I think it's moronic for any U.S. President to do. Including GWB.

But why? You keep operating from the assumption that it's a subservient gesture when plenty of people are telling you it's not.

Even so, the President is a servant of the people. Hell, he's the Lead Servant!

That's their opinion and they're entitled to it. I happen to agree with Webster's: to bend the head, body, or knee in reverence, submission, or shame.

Now, there are several other definitions as well, but this is certainly one of them. One that I don't believe is appropriate for the President.

Yes, reverence is pretty horrible.

 

[Brian]

Now, there are several other definitions as well...

Well there's your problem.

Yeah, interesting that TLS would choose the one that foments offense, instead of the one that obviously fits the situation.

Maybe it's the one Rush told his dittoheads to use.

 

[John Picard]

But why? You keep operating from the assumption that it's a subservient gesture when plenty of people are telling you it's not.

Even so, the President is a servant of the people. Hell, he's the Lead Servant!

That's their opinion and they're entitled to it. I happen to agree with Webster's: to bend the head, body, or knee in reverence, submission, or shame.

Now, there are several other definitions as well, but this is certainly one of them. One that I don't believe is appropriate for the President.

Yes, reverence is pretty horrible.

Just you WAIT. It all starts with a bow, and then they have our children sent off to indoctrination camps!

 

[Squiggy]

Now, there are several other definitions as well...

Well there's your problem.

Yeah, interesting that TLS would choose the one that foments offense, instead of the one that obviously fits the situation.

Maybe it's the one Rush told him to use.

Also, here's the complete section of the definition:

1. to bend the knee or body or incline the head, as in reverence, submission, salutation, recognition, or acknowledgment.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bow

So, not only is TLS using one specific section of the definition...he's using a specific section while ignoring half of that same section. Well done.

Then there's the full Webster's definition:

1 : to cease from competition or resistance : submit, yield <refusing to bow to the inevitable — John O'Hara>; also : to suffer defeat <bowed to the champion>
2 : to bend the head, body, or knee in reverence, submission, or shame
3 : to incline the head or body in salutation or assent or to acknowledge applause

Emphasis, a sane person's.