Why is Gen. Martok's ship a bird-of-prey?

[Captain Fine]

^ The Lakota was a beast so you can update an Excelsior to be a top notch combatant. We know that Admirals in the past have used Excelsiors as a flagship, such as Admiral Nechayev using the USS Gorkon in 2369.

But that wasn't during wartime. And not every Excelsior is that upgraded. Besides, I don't see Ross as an Excelsior kinda guy. Excelsiors are for prissy admirals, which he wasn't. I could picture him on a Nebula or Galaxy. Though an Intrepid might be a little too small/sexy for him.

 

[Jono]

^ The USS Hood fought through the orbital weapon platforms around Chin'toka to assault the power generators' moon, which I don't think is prissy at all.

 

[Captain Fine]

^ The USS Hood fought through the orbital weapon platforms around Chin'toka to assault the power generators' moon, which I don't think is prissy at all.

By that logic, we may as well give Ross a Miranda-class. Hell, let's put him in one of those Federation fighters!

 

[nx1701g]

^ If I recall correctly the Valdores were meant to be brand new. It was never said in the episode, but the novelization and (I know not canon) suggests that Admiral Ross commanded the fleet from the Excelsior Class USS Farragut.

I always preferred to think of the Intrepid-class Bellerophon as Ross' flagship. It makes perfect sense, as the Intrepid is the fastest Federation starship available, so he can run to trouble spots to personally supervise them--or away from them, as the case may be.

The novelization of WYLB never said what class the ship was. I wouldn't imagine Ross would use the Excelsior class Farragut. Galaxy class maybe?

We saw the Farragut though in Season Seven: it was Excelsior Class.

 

[Jono]

^ The USS Hood fought through the orbital weapon platforms around Chin'toka to assault the power generators' moon, which I don't think is prissy at all.

By that logic, we may as well give Ross a Miranda-class. Hell, let's put him in one of those Federation fighters!

Fed fighters weren't in that battle. As for the Miranda I don't see why not if he wanted one. Despite what seems to be a popular view on here the Miranda class wasn't a complete push over during the Dominion War.

 

[Captain Fine]

^ The USS Hood fought through the orbital weapon platforms around Chin'toka to assault the power generators' moon, which I don't think is prissy at all.

By that logic, we may as well give Ross a Miranda-class. Hell, let's put him in one of those Federation fighters!

Fed fighters weren't in that battle. As for the Miranda I don't see why not if he wanted one. Despite what seems to be a popular view on here the Miranda class wasn't a complete push over during the Dominion War.

No you are right. The Mirandas gave the Jem'Hadar something else to shoot at (leave them Galaxys alone!)

 

[MeanJoePhaser]

Because Birds of Prey are so kewl .

Also, they were too cheap to make a bridge set for a Vorcha.

 

[AdmiralGarak]

^They would have simply reused the Bird of Prey set.


Ross, Martok, Sisko, etcetera could have had a giant ship of the line if they wanted. It simply comes down to which ship they had an attachment to before becoming fleet commanders. In Sisko and Martok's cases, they kept the ships and crews they were currently commanding. In Ross's case, he probably transferred his flag to a ship he commanded or served on before his promotion to Admiral. It's the same as how Picard, commanding the state of the art Enterprise, yearned for his days commanding the hunk-o-junk Stargazer.

 

[Broccoli]

Robau was a pansy .

Uh oh...don't tell the Trek XI forum that!

 

[Anwar]

They already had a Vorcha bridge from TNG, didn't they? Or was it destroyed?

 

[mattyhugh]

They already had a Vorcha bridge from TNG, didn't they? Or was it destroyed?

I always assumed they just had a generic Klingon bridge that they adapted and evolved over the years.

 

[Anwar]

Well, they had something. I mean with all the new sets made for DS9 they could easily make some striking modifications to that one and make it really a bridge for a Klingon battlecruiser.

 

[BenRoethig]

I always preferred to think of the Intrepid-class Bellerophon as Ross' flagship. It makes perfect sense, as the Intrepid is the fastest Federation starship available, so he can run to trouble spots to personally supervise them--or away from them, as the case may be.

The novelization of WYLB never said what class the ship was. I wouldn't imagine Ross would use the Excelsior class Farragut. Galaxy class maybe?

We saw the Farragut though in Season Seven: it was Excelsior Class.

That and it was brought back into service after being decommissioned. Its Nebula class replacement (the ship that rescued the E-D survivors) was destroyed two years earlier.

As for Martok, the reason he got the Rotarran was more or less punishment for allowing himself to be captured. He had to reprove himself.

 

[Anwar]

Does that mean, that after he reproved himself and stayed on the Rotarran despite it being a punishment that Martok was a masochist?

 

[Star Wolf]

Some people are destroyer sailors, others were battleship sailors. In Trekverse is the size of a battleship needed for the additional communications load put on a command ship? Probably not.

 

[Anwar]

No, but it does have the additional defensive and offensive systems that would extend the life of the Commander of the Fleet.

 

[Sci]

For the record, the novel Diplomatic Immunity establishes Chancellor Martok's flagship to be the Negh'Var-class IKS Sword of Kahless. This is confirmed in several subsequent novels, most recently the Destiny trilogy, which is set in 2381.

Meanwhile, the novel Avatar, Book I establishes Admiral Ross's flagship in the months immediately following the Dominion War to be the Prometheus-class USS Cerberus. He continues to use the Cerberus at least into 2379 (A Time for War, A Time for Peace).

The novel Articles of the Federation, meanwhile, establishes that when the Federation President requires transportation aboard a Starfleet ship, the ships of the Galaxy class are most commonly used, and that the USS Venture in particular is most commonly used. The novel A Singular Destiny establishes, however, that the Federation President most commonly uses a non-Starfleet ships of an unspecified class called Paris One.

 

[Anwar]

The "Paris One"? At least that shows the Feds aren't TOTALLY American centric and call it the "Starfleet One".

 

[Sci]

The "Paris One"?

Not "the Paris One, just Paris One.

At least that shows the Feds aren't TOTALLY American centric and call it the "Starfleet One".

The Myriad Universes novel The Chimes At Midnight, set in an alternate timeline in which Spock was killed in the desert of Vulcan's Forge as a child, does feature a Starfleet shuttlecraft bearing the call sign "Starfleet One" when the Federation President is aboard it in 2285. It's unclear if the Federation in the primary timeline ever followed this particular practice.

Personally, I wouldn't consider it particularly U.S.-centric, mostly because I really don't see why every country doesn't give a special "[Whatever] One" call sign to aircraft bearing their heads of state and heads of government. It just seems like common sense to me.

 

[Captain Fine]

In DS9 remastered they better make Ross's flagship a Prometheus-class vessel