Why didn't JJ watch every episode before writing this movie?
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Re: Why didn't JJ watch any episode before writing this movie?
A gear head over in another forum pointed out that the Vette's more sophisticated transmission makes it much easier to drive than the 20s car that the Iotians copied. The 20s car requires double clutching, something which I, a driver of a manual car for the last 7 years, had never heard of before the thread. He said Kirk's experience in "A Piece of the Action" was exactly consistent with someone who knew how to drive a stick, but not how to double-clutch.
A gear head over in another forum pointed out that the Vette's more sophisticated transmission makes it much easier to drive than the 20s car that the Iotians copied. The 20s car requires double clutching, something which I, a driver of a manual car for the last 7 years, had never heard of before the thread. He said Kirk's experience in "A Piece of the Action" was exactly consistent with someone who knew how to drive a stick, but not how to double-clutch.
/\ Actually that makes sense to me. Now that I think about it, I would have a problem with it even if it was just a stick; Good point.
We don't have to wonder about that now if we don't want to.
You figure Orci didn't know about "A Piece Of The Action?" I figure he did.
Everything I say is a lie.
You better listen to him. He's been known to de-pants himself.
^Or it might be a good change up for any thread where the posters are going around in circles about the ship being built on the ground. I think there's one or two of them that have been that way for several pages now.
Only squiggy could create a thread bomb using a pic of himself!
Yeah, and lets not forget Scotty knowing Kirk was "dead" in Generations, but thinking he was alive in "Relics" even though they were written and co-written by the same person.
Wait...I bet Braga wrote that part of the movie.
The caption would be "Stop acting like an ass!"
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I am one arrogant son-of-a-bitch, eh?
CANON!
NOT CANON!
We all know that legendary legend Nicholas Meyer watched every episode of TOS possibly up to three times before writing and directing Star Trek 2: the Wroth of Kahn. This meant that the movie was ENTIRELY consistent to Star Trek in every way as well as being a great action movie that we all know and love.
But how come JJ didn't do this? Does he think he's too busy and special and important to watch all of Star Trek? He's not. Someone should tell him he's not. He might have THE FIRST CLUE about the characters if he had done this. Kirk is NOT a comedy hand-swelling-up-hiding-under-Uhura's-bed-to-see-her-feet buffoon!:angry:
Some people do not have lives. It's a new millenium, it's a new director, and new blood. Star Trek has changed... deal with it! Coming in this forum and seeing the movie bashed before it is even out is getting old.
Re: Why didn't JJ watch any episode before writing this movie?
I knew someone would have that criticism of that particular scene, and that answer leaped into my mind immediately. Driving an old standard transmission -in this case I think it's like a 30 or 31 Cadillac- like that would be something akin to driving a 40 year old dump truck with a manual 12 speed. The peddle would weigh a ton, the gears would be tough to engage, and if you didn't know about double clutching you'd be grindnig gears constantly, only getting them into place on the rare occasion your newb ass managed to push the lever in at the matching engine rpm. New (and by new I mean cars made in the last 50 years) generally have synchros that make double clutching largely irrelevant by making rotation matching more efficient. A double clutch shift can take a little bit of stress off your tranny from say a 1-4 or a 2-5 shift by helping the clutch and engine, but it's not really necessary.
Synchronisers were invented in the 20s or 30s but few cars had them, and modern cone synchronisers who descendants are found in modern cars were introduced in the 50s.
And this has been your daily dose of something that one would not think would have anything to do with Star Trek and yet does.
I knew someone would have that criticism of that particular scene, and that answer leaped into my mind immediately. Driving an old standard transmission -in this case I think it's like a 30 or 31 Cadillac- like that would be something akin to driving a 40 year old dump truck with a manual 12 speed. The peddle would weigh a ton, the gears would be tough to engage, and if you didn't know about double clutching you'd be grindnig gears constantly, only getting them into place on the rare occasion your newb ass managed to push the lever in at the matching engine rpm. New (and by new I mean cars made in the last 50 years) generally have synchros that make double clutching largely irrelevant by making rotation matching more efficient. A double clutch shift can take a little bit of stress off your tranny from say a 1-4 or a 2-5 shift by helping the clutch and engine, but it's not really necessary.
Synchronisers were invented in the 20s or 30s but few cars had them, and modern cone synchronisers who descendants are found in modern cars were introduced in the 50s.
And this has been your daily dose of something that one would not think would have anything to do with Star Trek and yet does.
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More like keeping a handle on continuity is useful if you want to make a good Star Trek movie along with good plotting that lacks cliched and formulaic techniques. Anyone can claim to be a Trekkie, but it's meaningless if you're setting out to create a reboot anyway. What difference would knowledge of what's been previously established make at that point?
Probably helped him, but it's too bad he pushed the academy storyline too and wouldn't back down. The idea sucked then and it still sucks now, but at least back then we got TUC out of it, which was a much better send-off for the original crew than TFF would've been.
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