I'm remembering the Robert Heinlein story Space Cadet, where the commanding officer of the ship that landed on Venus was Black.Benny Russel was living in the 50s where there was segregation and open racism. Back then, the idea of the hero of a story being black would not have been accepted well which is why the publisher urges Benny to change it.
I think OP is saying that the captain's skin color(in the short story) wouldn't necessarily need to be given. For instance, say it was 1959, and someone wrote a short story about Captain Kirk. His skin color wouldn't be given in the story. A white kid reading it would assume Kirk is white. A black kid might see him as black. An asian kid.....and so on.
It's like Jesus. If you go to an Ethiopian Church, (icons of )Jesus is(are) black. If you go to a Coptic Church, Jesus looks Egyptian. If you go to a church in Iran, Jesus looks Persian. Likewise Greece, or Russia, or Ireland, etc.
Hooray. Someone understands.
Oh how I strongly disagree with this. As an American raised Black male if I read a story and the characters race is not given, I naturally assume the character is white. I have attended black churches all my life and you know what color Jesus is in the paintings I've seen--white. When you're living in a country where you are the minority the default color will always be that of the majority.I think OP is saying that the captain's skin color(in the short story) wouldn't necessarily need to be given. For instance, say it was 1959, and someone wrote a short story about Captain Kirk. His skin color wouldn't be given in the story. A white kid reading it would assume Kirk is white. A black kid might see him as black. An asian kid.....and so on.
It's like Jesus. If you go to an Ethiopian Church, (icons of )Jesus is(are) black. If you go to a Coptic Church, Jesus looks Egyptian. If you go to a church in Iran, Jesus looks Persian. Likewise Greece, or Russia, or Ireland, etc.
Again as I said, I'm only talking about in the context of the story/novella Benny Russell had written.
Star Trek is colourblind. I was just wondering why in the story (the story within in the story, I don't mean as in "the episode") why an author writing about a 24th century space captain in a colourblind society, would need to specify skin colour.
But those latter examples don't take into account the dynamic within the US itself in past decades. For a long time, including Benny Russell's 1950s, African-American churches have displayed pictures that depict a very white Jesus.I think OP is saying that the captain's skin color(in the short story) wouldn't necessarily need to be given. For instance, say it was 1959, and someone wrote a short story about Captain Kirk. His skin color wouldn't be given in the story. A white kid reading it would assume Kirk is white. A black kid might see him as black. An asian kid.....and so on.
It's like Jesus. If you go to an Ethiopian Church, (icons of )Jesus is(are) black. If you go to a Coptic Church, Jesus looks Egyptian. If you go to a church in Iran, Jesus looks Persian. Likewise Greece, or Russia, or Ireland, etc.
Hence the problem of Jimmy: not only could he not imagine a place for himself in the space, he could barely imagine a future for himself.A black kid and an Asian kid in 1950s America probably also would have understood that the character in Benny's story was supposed to be white, even if no indication of race and skin color were specified
The first page of replies seemed to be answering "some other" query. I was merely trying to help. I do understand the context of the episode and the story the writers and(in this case)actors were trying to tell.But those latter examples don't take into account the dynamic within the US itself in past decades. For a long time, including Benny Russell's 1950s, African-American churches have displayed pictures that depict a very white Jesus.
A black kid and an Asian kid in 1950s America probably also would have understood that the character in Benny's story was supposed to be white, even if no indication of race and skin color were specified. That was just the "default" in the dominant culture, so it would have been automatically assumed.
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My suggestion is that he didn't want a colour blind book, nor did he want the reader to project their own expectations on the character. He quite specifically wanted the hero of the story to be black, precisely to challenge the white readerships prejudices.
Not just to challenge white prejudices but also to give black kids a hero to look up to that looks like them. To give people who are currently oppressed a vision of a future where they can be just as heroic and important and valued as white people are.
Isn't the essential premise of Trek (at least as presented by First Contact) that the exploration of space and meeting other forms of life forces humanity to understand and solve problems, not sweep them under the rug?Not just to challenge white prejudices but also to give black kids a hero to look up to that looks like them. To give people who are currently oppressed a vision of a future where they can be just as heroic and important and valued as white people are.
Hooray. Someone understands.
Isn't the essential premise of Trek (at least as presented by First Contact) that the exploration of space and meeting other forms of life forces humanity to understand and solve problems, not sweep them under the rug?
Isn't the essential premise of Trek (at least as presented by First Contact) that the exploration of space and meeting other forms of life forces humanity to understand and solve problems, not sweep them under the rug?
Maybe I'm missing something, but what's being swept under the rug here?
Maybe I'm missing something, but what's being swept under the rug here?
No, I'm saying nothing was swept under the rug. However, I may have created some confusion as I was trying to avoid the term "whitewash," so as not to sound repetitive. The humans we see in Trek acknowledge various social ills, racism among them, recognize them in other societies, and condemn them directly.No, I didn't get it either....![]()
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