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Why did Pike promote Kirk...

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Anduril

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before he leaves for the Narada? It's been established that getting him into the captains chair was rushed, but I don't understand Pikes reasoning.

It's especially confusing for me since Pike admitted that Kirk wasn't even supposed to be there. Why promote him to first officer then?
 
Kirk was Pike's chosen one. As he says in the shipyard bar, Kirk has all the traits that Pike believes Starfleet has lost - traits Pike thought important to surviving the current crisis.
 
Because that was the course of action most conducive to the general plot.
 
Kirk was Pike's chosen one. As he says in the shipyard bar, Kirk has all the traits that Pike believes Starfleet has lost - traits Pike thought important to surviving the current crisis.

That was my thinking as well. Just wanted to see if anyone else saw it that way. Kirk himself was even in disbelief.

Sink or swim I guess.
 
Let's also remember that Pike didn't originally envision Kirk as captain until after the crisis. Spock was made captain and sure, Kirk was one step away from captaincy then (in a rather unorthodox kind of way -- even Spock acknowledges that), but he wasn't just thrust upon it.
 
You know I have to wonder since he knew both Kirk and Spock if he though that Kirk could be a good counter balance to Spock.
 
Certainly. I'm sure Pike was more aware of Spock's personality before Kirk even entered Starfleet. I got the impression Spock was there before Kirk was recruited by Pike.

To answer the original, question, Pike promoted Kirk because he wasn't sure if he would be back and he knew Kirk was bolder then Spock. Spock would make the logical decision to pull back and not attempt a rescue mission.
 
Certainly. I'm sure Pike was more aware of Spock's personality before Kirk even entered Starfleet. I got the impression Spock was there before Kirk was recruited by Pike.

When Kirk was in his third year and getting called out for cheating the Kobayashi Maru test, they said Spock graduated four years earlier.
 
Certainly. I'm sure Pike was more aware of Spock's personality before Kirk even entered Starfleet. I got the impression Spock was there before Kirk was recruited by Pike.

When Kirk was in his third year and getting called out for cheating the Kobayashi Maru test, they said Spock graduated four years earlier.


That's not exactly what Adm. Barnett said. He said that Spock was one of their most distinguished graduates, and that he had been programming the Kobayashi Maru for four years. . .nothing in that statement that says that Spock couldn't have started programming it as a student. . .it could have been his thesis for all we know. . .

~FS
 
It would make sense for Pike to decide to give Kirk authority if he thought Kirk's approach to the current crisis was decidedly better than that of any of his other officers or officer-replacements. But the way he did it is a bit odd.

He doesn't tell his officers "Kirk here knows what to do, he's in charge now". He tells them "I like this Kirk guy here, so I'm sending him to this suicide mission while you continue to be in charge, Mr. Spock". That's the exact opposite message to the one Pike would give if he told Kirk "You have the conn now, Cadet/Lieutenant; Mr. Spock, make sure our ship does her very best to accommodate Cadet/Lieutenant Kirk's needs, whims and cunning plans".

I can sort of understand that Pike would get, if not cold then at least lukewarm feet, and leave things halfway: not giving Kirk the conn outright but subjecting him to moderation by Spock would be a reasonable compromise. But making Kirk the 1st Officer is an odd way of making him Spock's trusted advisor and second-guesser, because it places him in the line of succession when there's no real need to do so. Kirk gets both too little and too much at the same time...

Timo Saloniemi
 
Kirk was Pike's chosen one. As he says in the shipyard bar, Kirk has all the traits that Pike believes Starfleet has lost - traits Pike thought important to surviving the current crisis.

Too bad the movie didn't actually establish that Starfleet was missing anything that an undisciplined, cocky loose cannon could provide. Not that they even remotely had time to do that. They should have come up with a more plausible rationale that could be shoehorned into a movie's running time.
 
Kirk's midi-chlorians tipped Pike off that he was indeed the Chosen One.

LOL. The Star Wars prequels and this movie had the same problem. How do we get the character to the place the audience knows he'll end up at? In the case of Star Wars, Lucas had to come up with a convincing set of reasons for why Anakin turns to the dark side. He failed. He had 3 movies in which to map it all out and instead rushed things at the last minute and gave us something incredibly contrived. Same with this movie. Kirk has to end up as Captain by the end of the movie. So the writers basically force it because the plot demands it.
 
Kirk was Pike's chosen one. As he says in the shipyard bar, Kirk has all the traits that Pike believes Starfleet has lost - traits Pike thought important to surviving the current crisis.

This is the simple and correct answer.
 
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