Seriously. If you can look at the HD screengrabs of Undiscovered Country and think those shots where the actors look like oil paintings look good, you have issues.
That said, it's not quite as bad in motion, but still not ideal.
why another blu-ray of all Trek movies by 2016 will happen
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That said, it's not quite as bad in motion, but still not ideal.
It is worth remembering that the films that have received really incredible restorations, like Jaws and some of the Bond movies, are exceptions rather than the rule.
Paramount looked at the movies and thought "lets do a cheap restore and that will do, they will all format shift anyhow" and they were right.
How much would everyone pay for a properly restored set of Treks 1-10?
Paramount looked at the movies and thought "lets do a cheap restore and that will do, they will all format shift anyhow" and they were right.
How much would everyone pay for a properly restored set of Treks 1-10?
I doubt they'll properly restore them for Blu-ray now. If they do, it'll be for UHD Blu-ray in a few years. The 2016 release is probably just another re-release like what Disney did for the Star Wars films.
I'd pay $25-30 per movie for the first six. Probably $10 a piece for the TNG films.
I imagine the severely disappointing sales of the TNG HD remaster sets and CBS showing no inclination towards putting money towards remasters of the other series hasn't improved the chances of Paramount deciding to put more money towards the movies than is strictly necessary.
I mean, I've said it before, but unless Beyond is a huge success, Star Trek as a film franchise will be dead for the next fifteen years.
I'd pay $50ish for the lot. I realize I'm the exception and not the rule, but I don't see great value in buying the same story over and over again with minor increases in quality.
If they were actually improving the story and/or its presentation in some significant way (like with The Motion Picture's director's edition) then that'd be different, and I'd be willing to pony up more -- even back up to full price.
50th Ann reissue covers http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/01/50th-anniversary-star-trek-film-collections-coming-february-9/
Looks like my purchase of the Stardate Collection at Christmas was a good one. I'm more relieved (and not surprised) that these are only reissues, if anything.
The new artwork is a bit 'iffy' too. I'm not the biggest fan of using just one logo for all iterations of Trek, when each series has hithero kept their branding seperate (including the TNG movies being seperate to the TOS movies). But aside from that, the actual art is weird too, with Picard and Riker in their TNG-TV uniforms, and the Enterprise-D prominent in the center, when (as we know) these elements are only relevant for one of the three movies contained in the set. At least the earlier 'TNG Motion Picture Collection' releases kept individual branding and featured in the artwork the ship which actually appears the most in those movies, the Ent-E.
Nitpicking, I know.
Nitpicking, I know.
Huh, I'm not really a fan of that re-release cover art.
On the plus side, since it's just a reissue of the current discs, I have no need to spend money on them. If they had gone all out and included the DE of TMP or something crazy like that, I would have had to repurchase them!
On the plus side, since it's just a reissue of the current discs, I have no need to spend money on them. If they had gone all out and included the DE of TMP or something crazy like that, I would have had to repurchase them!
I'm a big fan of home media, and Trek is my favourite sci-fi framchise, but I have avoided buying any of the movies in HD because of the complete lack of effort. I'm going to wait now until we get a 4K release, as that will force them to make new transfers.
And a major HD retrospective documentary is also a must. I'm talking like an epic covering the making of the whole franchise. That they can do it for Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street, which made a fraction of the money Trek has, but not Star Trek is a complete joke.
And a major HD retrospective documentary is also a must. I'm talking like an epic covering the making of the whole franchise. That they can do it for Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street, which made a fraction of the money Trek has, but not Star Trek is a complete joke.
And what's truly galling is that seven years is an absolute eternity in home-video terms -- even if they'd given us near-state-of-the-art BD transfers for the ten films back in 2009, encoding and mastering techniques have still advanced by leaps and bounds since then, rendering even the best transfers from that era somewhat obsolete now. And since these most certainly weren't among the best (for the most part), it's simply compounded many times over, here in 2016.
I have no idea what CBS is thinking, here, but "just barely good enough" appears to be somewhere in the right ballpark, it seems.
I have no idea what CBS is thinking, here, but "just barely good enough" appears to be somewhere in the right ballpark, it seems.
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So long as we keep gobbling up the same crap then there is no reason for them to invest further. Explain your desires for something new by not buying these.
Of course that action probably won't matter, profit from new fan purchases will probably justify the re-release anyway.
Of course that action probably won't matter, profit from new fan purchases will probably justify the re-release anyway.
Totally agree with this.
I recently rewatched the BD of Richard Donner's Superman. I spent the whole movie thinking about how much better it would look if the print was re-scanned with 2016 technology. Not saying it looked bad, but I kind of knew on an instinctive level that it could look better. And that's how I feel about the Trek movies, too.(Unlike with DVD, which hits a ceiling in terms of how much they can truly be remastered, there *are* still places they can go with revisiting High Definition transfers as technology gets better, and a lot of those early BDs are really showing their age now.)
Let me be clear, I'm not unsatisfied with the Trek transfers particularly. I find them watchable enough. But I do think they can be improved, and Paramount taking the easy option of simply repackaging the same tired old 2009 transfers into a new box and pushing them out the door shows a general contempt for the fanbase -- especially in Trek's 50th anniversary year. Star Trek deserves better than that.
Paramount has already tied up Quinto and Pine for a potential fourth film. Unless Star Trek Beyond disappoints at the box office, I imagine they'll at least move forward with one more movie. Granted, I'm sure they'd prefer a "huge success," but I doubt this will mark the end of the film franchise if the film manages to duplicate the moderate successes of its predecessors (and, perhaps more importantly, continues to grow the franchise's international box office like Star Trek Into Darkness did).
That's the thing, though - it costs them next to nothing to slap out the same discs with new box art every couple of years. They don't even spend as much in manufacturing costs this time, as they've cut the two bonus discs out of these sets.
^ That's really what makes it come across as contemptuous towards the fanbase. In the 50th anniversary year, one might hope that they'd put together a package which is more than just, "Same Old, Same Old" but without even the bonus discs from the previous releases. 
As a cheap and tacky tie-in designed to lead-up to the new Trek movie, this would be dismissable. But in the year of Trek's half-century anniversary? I'm not so sure they couldn't have tried a little bit harder.....
As a cheap and tacky tie-in designed to lead-up to the new Trek movie, this would be dismissable. But in the year of Trek's half-century anniversary? I'm not so sure they couldn't have tried a little bit harder.....
