Who Would You Get a Crush On?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' started by Mojochi, Mar 29, 2018.

  1. The Mariah Has Awoken

    The Mariah Has Awoken Admiral Admiral

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    To me Data and Geordi's friendship was like Sisko and Dax, or Picard and Guinan, or Janeway and Tuvok, or Doc and Kes, or Doc and Seven, or Bashir and O'Brien, or Troy and Abed. Something where the relationship is more meaningful if it's not about sex. Where having a sexual element would undercut the other dynamics of the relationship.

    I like the idea of Geordi being gay, and maybe his boyfriend being jealous and suspicious of his friendship with Data. Also I like the idea of Data exploring male and female relationships equally. ("Shall I now update my sexuality setting to 'homosexual'"?) But their particular friendship would lose something if they were in a relationship, same as if Sisko got with Dax.

    Also I like the idea of Ezri being male and Bashir having a relationship with him.
     
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  2. Marynator

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    I've always liked better when romance partners were side characters or guest stars and not main cast. I feel when the main stars get together it's like their romantic relationship overwhelms their professional one and like every story has to be about it now. I feel it's more interesting when the main characters can talk to each other about their love interests but like as side stories to the science fiction.
     
  3. borgboy

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    The new Dax being male would've been a great opportunity to do something interesting with gender and orientation - but then there would've been only one female main cast member. That could've been fixed by promoting up another female character, such as Leeta.
    I would've thought male Ezri and Worf, but I can go with Ezri and Julian. Julian always read as bi to me anyways.
    I always did think it didn't make sense for Data to be heterosexual - surely an omnisexual orientation would've had more opportunities and potential for him. I can also see Soong making Data straight just because he was and Soong's ego is big enough he'd do that. He made Data and Lore into physical copies of himself after all.
     
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  4. borgboy

    borgboy Commodore Commodore

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    Jadzia definitely got swallowed up by her relationship with Worf. Once they were together all her stories were about their relationship, while he got stories that weren't about their relationship.
     
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  5. Twilight Phoenix

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    I'm pretty sure of this. As you say, there's basically no need for a specific sexual orientation in Data or Lore, but Noonien may have programmed them as heterosexual just because he was. I sometimes wonder if his ultimate wish wasn't to transfer his conscience in Data or Lore...Maybe it was, but Juliana convinced him not to do it ? So when she died, he used his knowledge to transfer her in a gynoid replica instead of using the technology for himself ? We'll never know for sure.

    Oh okay ! So that's more personal preference then :)
     
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  6. borgboy

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    That is an interesting - and creepy - suggestion that Soong was going to transfer his mind to Data or Lore. It does kind of give a predatory slant to his paternal role.
     
  7. Marynator

    Marynator Queen of all the Realms Premium Member

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    Mmmmmm ... I don't get that feeling from Dr Soong. I feel they had that more with Dr Ira Graves. Dr Soong seemed more an intellectual creator and not a boogeyman, and like if he was going to do that I really don't believe he would give his sons consciousness first, he would have just left them empty to put himself into.
     
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  8. borgboy

    borgboy Commodore Commodore

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    I agree. I can see him putting his mind into an empty android body,but not displacing a mind he'd created.
     
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  9. Twilight Phoenix

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    This is just a theory I read about, I don't really have an opinion about it. Just wondering.
     
  10. Riker'sMailbox

    Riker'sMailbox Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    For me, crushes were the guys I would never actually want to date. They were the fantasy guys that would never have been a good match, but that I found desirable anyway.
    Picard is sexy and intelligent, but unattainable which makes for someone very desirable.
    Riker was probably good in bed.
    Worf is unpredictable, which is kind of hot.
    Richard Castillo was hot and eager, he may more boyfriend material than crush, but I would put him here.
     
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  11. Chrizmo

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    Castillo was hot, yes. I regret his fate. Maybe some versions of Castillo in alternative universes survived.
     
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  12. The Mariah Has Awoken

    The Mariah Has Awoken Admiral Admiral

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    Yeah, but not just an aesthetic preference, a critical artistic judgment. I think the dynamics that work better in a friendship are different than the dynamics that work in a romantic relationship. Same reason I think it's a good thing Bill Murray and Hilary Swank didn't have sex in Lost In Translation.

    I agree homosexuality should have had more representation in Star Trek, but it bothers me a bit when people demand that art only show them their own worldview. You can't really ask for other people to respect your worldview if you're going to call people evil and backwards for having a different one.
     
  13. borgboy

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    If someone's worldview is that gays should be invisible and persecuted, then I'm ok with calling them evil and backwards. Respecting differences doesn't include respecting oppression of minorities.
     
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  14. Riker'sMailbox

    Riker'sMailbox Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    :beer:, this 100%
     
  15. Nyotarules

    Nyotarules Vice Admiral Moderator

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    Noone has asked for that. Including homosexuality in the Star Trek universe does not mean excluding everyone else. ST was/is a very Euro-humancentric and heterocentric worldview. The novels are more diverse, showing that some species do not even have a culture of coupledom, some are naturally polyamorous. e.g Deltans, Efrosians, Orions, Andorians
     
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    ST writers had this strange Idea that a hermaphrodite society, IE a society where anybody can go out with anybody, could somehow be more restrictive than a sexed society... I've always found that idea hilariously ridiculous but somehow it finds people to buy it hook line and sinker.
     
  17. klingonx

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    Counselor Troi definitely, I had a crush on her since I started watching TNG
     
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  18. TheQman

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    1. Robin Lefler
    2. Troi
    3. The Metamorph (Kamala)
    4. Anyone you want on the Holodeck ;-)
     
  19. Ro_Laren

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    I always had a crush on Wesley...
     
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  20. Stroudarian

    Stroudarian Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I have to admit, when I was younger, when the series was on the air, I had a huge crush on Dr. Crusher. However, as I got older, and in college, probably sometime around the time the movie "Star Trek: Insurrection" was released, I started to find myself being attracted more to Counselor Troi. I cannot really explain why, it's just what happened to me. Though, I do find both women to be considerably and incredibly attractive. There have been many attractive characters over the course of the series, far too many to mention.