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Who will the Villain Be??? ***POSSIBLE SPOILER ALERT****

Klingons, maybe? A promising young soldier named Kor could decide to bloody the Federation's nose and earn a name for himself.
 
Mudd - maybe he will trigger a disaster of some kind unwittingly. They want to go for a different kind of villain and he fits the bill. The other mentioned characters had very specific plot arcs and would involve a rehash - except maybe Trelane but I loathe supreme being plots and hope they steer well clear. I still think he should be the one who stumbles across Botany Bay in the closing credits, although if they want action Khan, get him in with the Klingons for the next sequel.
 
Well the rumour suggests that the film isn't focussed on a traditional 'villain' type at all, which could imply that it's about some disaster or the unknown itself is the adversary, or mean that the villain is just misunderstood. I believe Damon Lindelof said Star Trek is not about the villains, and others have said they want to story to be 'bigger' but darker and more personal. I think Orci also said they want the story to comment on contemporary issues, like the original Star Trek did.

Given that they want it to be darker, that casts doubt on Mudd, and possibly Trelane. Given that they want the story to be 'bigger' that casts doubt on the Horta. Gary Mitchell would fit the bill of the story being more personal to the crew. The Talosians could make things darker and their mind control abilities leave lots of options open for touching on contemporary issues? The Talosians could also bring Pike back into the story?

If the sources info is good, then I would say the most likely adversary is either Gary Mitchell or the Talosians.
 
All I can say is I'll be glad if Khan isn't featured - if you have to do a reboot, give us fresh stories and new villains!
 
Please, God—Talosians!

Of the five possibilities, Talosians are by far the most intriguing and have the most potential.

Gary Mitchell comes in as a close second. The problem, though, is that he didn't appear in ST:XI, so that dramatic connection was lost.

If I'm Really lucky, though, they'll just drop everyone but Pike and Spock and set the story 20 years in the past... :p
 
Ding! Ding! Here we go again.

http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=128878

Remember this? And how it turned out?

an "informant close to the production", my ass.


Personally, I wouldn't want them to rehash ANYTHING of TOS. No Mudd, no Talosians, no Kor, no Trelane, nothing. I want new and fresh villains.
And actually, after 9 movies with villains I'd like to have a movie without any villain.
 
JarodRussell said:
No Mudd, no Talosians, no Kor, no Trelane, nothing. I want new and fresh villains.
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This would be nice.



But anyway, I vote for Tribble of Borg as the new bad guy:p
tob.jpg
 
JarodRussell said:
Ding! Ding! Here we go again.

http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=128878

Remember this? And how it turned out?

an "informant close to the production", my ass.


Personally, I wouldn't want them to rehash ANYTHING of TOS. No Mudd, no Talosians, no Kor, no Trelane, nothing. I want new and fresh villains.
And actually, after 9 movies with villains I'd like to have a movie without any villain.
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There were also leaked reports of the films plot that turned out to be absolutely spot on. People were like 'wtf' when leaked information talked about bald time travelling Romulans on a squid like mining ship.
 
When I first saw the Horta among the pics on the trekmovie link, I thought it was actually the rock monster from "The Savage Curtain", that wanted to battle good and evil. I thought STXII might be a remake of the old DC comics' story where, continuing their experiments, they started an epic Klingon/Federation war, and Kirk had to team up with Kor and free the Organians to stop the rock monsters.

I really don't want Harry Mudd as any sort of real villain. That would be like putting Quark in command of the Narada.
 
KingDaniel said:
When I first saw the Horta among the pics on the trekmovie link, I thought it was actually the rock monster from "The Savage Curtain", that wanted to battle good and evil. I thought STXII might be a remake of the old DC comics' story where, continuing their experiments, they started an epic Klingon/Federation war, and Kirk had to team up with Kor and free the Organians to stop the rock monsters.

I really don't want Harry Mudd as any sort of real villain. That would be like putting Quark in command of the Narada.
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But Harry Mudd with be so much fun. Played by Greg Grunberg.
 
Out of the list given, I want it to be Gary Mitchell just to shut everyone up who insisted before Trek XI that he wasn't integral to the new timeline.

Out of the others, I can't see it being Harry Mudd, as I just can't picture him being the primary villain of a movie. The space pimp may make a fine foil of the week, but as the antagonist of a movie? No, not buying it.

Using Trelane, Talosians or the Horta would inevetibaly have to be remakes of their respective episodes, and Abrams and Cohorts have already said they don't want to do a remake. For that matter, Gary Mitchell would have to be a remake as well.

I guess, Harry Mudd is the only one you can use without necessarily remaking anything. Even though he's not quite grand enoungh for a movie villain, logic would suggest it has to be him.
 
All those suggested "villains" sound really implausible. They just wouldn't work. I'm guessing this rumor is false.

Right now I'm betting on a Klingon villain (or at least Klingon involvement). I don't know if it will be someone we've already met or someone new, but I feel like they may be going in that direction.
 
I also like the irony of the sequel logo on Trekmovie.com.
Ghostbusters 2 isn't an exactly well-received sequel. ;)
 
I agree that they don't look like credible 'villains' but then the writers are also quoted as stating that the movie may involve the characters trying to overcome a situation rather than a villain. Mitchell, if featured, would not be a villain in any event unless they rehash the episode and I can't see them doing that. Trelane is too cheesy and Q-like. The Talosians have huge potential for a story but seem to me to be more traditional villains. That's why I think Mudd is most likely. Grunberg has said he'd love to play him and he could easily be worked into a 'disaster' plot as a hindrance supporting character rather than a true villain. He needn't be as cheesy as his TOS counterpart and the moustache is optional.
 
The moustache is integral to the character of Harry Mudd, and I refuse to watch any representation of him which lacks it. That's like Spock without pointy ears.
 
The Wormhole said:
The moustache is integral to the character of Harry Mudd, and I refuse to watch any representation of him which lacks it. That's like Spock without pointy ears.
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Lol - if we were talking Stella's hairdo, I'd probably agree... :techman: But I can live without the moustache (on Mudd and Stella). God help me I'd even love Rand without a beehive as long as she gets to kick some a##.

Actually a dodgy double act where Stella is as crooked as Mudd might even work. I'm visualising Kate Vernon with pine cones stuck to her head.
 
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