I'll have to look it up again but wasn't there a mention in the Kirk dossier on the official movie site about him being an assistant instructor in advanced hand to hand combat?
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I'll have to look it up again but wasn't there a mention in the Kirk dossier on the official movie site about him being an assistant instructor in advanced hand to hand combat?
We've met the villian, and it's lens flare!
Yeah, that was in the dossier.
We have the dossier on a website on the one hand, and the on screen evidence that he got his ass handed to himself in every single fight in the movie on the other hand.
So, rather than hand-to-hand, it seems Kirk was more adept at chin-to-fist combat?
Against multiple Starfleet opponents in a bar before he started his Academy training or Vulcans and Romulans who possess multiple times the strength of a human.
Plus since he didn't even bother to drop kick or karate chop any of them he probably was in control and faked losing.
Totally. I also hope it's not Mudd. Should he be in there somewhere, however, let's pray they make him less silly.
I'm also among the people who do not care for another Klingon film...let alone Khan.
Gary Mitchell sounds like a plan, though. He has serious coolness potential. I'm seeing the bad brother from the Vampire Diaries. Hmmmm.....
To be fair, it wasn't just him - everything about "I, Mudd" was silly. In his first outing, though, Harry was first and foremost a con artist, but you also got a hint of menace here and there - the impression that it wasn't all bluster and bullshit and that he might be dangerous if cornered. If they bring him back, I'd like to see something of that side return to the character.*
Totally. I also hope it's not Mudd. Should he be in there somewhere, however, let's pray they make him less silly.
All that said, I'm really in no hurry to see Harry Mudd, Khan, Finnegan, Gary Mitchell again, nor anyone else we've seen before. I kind of like the idea of there being an impersonal threat or catastrophe for our heroes to contend with this time out--a problem to be solved with cleverness and ingenuity in a finite amount of time, rather than another bad guy to be defeated.
* (Come to think of it, that could be a way to get Nestor Carbonell in the movie while leaving Khan the heck out.)
Supervillains are annoying anyway, but sort of bad characters can be really cool.
If the movie isn't going to feature the traditional villain type, then Trelane, the Horta, Mudd, and the Talosians all fit the bill, because they weren't really villains in a TWOK, Borg, or ST09 sense.
-- Trelane was just a misunderstood child playing out a fantasy.
-- The Horta were actually peaceful, but were forced into killing to defend themselves.
-- Mudd is just a guy who works in the gray areas of the law, sometimes getting caught on the wrong side of it.
-- The Talosians were actually trying to help Pike in "The Menagerie."
-- Gary Mitchell became villainous by accident.
Any one of them could create a conflict or some other type of problem for our heroes to resolve.
The problem is, regardless of who it is, we already know they aren't all bad. So, what twist would give it any freshness or create any new suspense? That's my question.
They did say they wanted to be topical. Oh! I know! Maybe it's Mudd. He was meddling in sub-prime mortgages on some planet and caused their housing market to collapse. The ripple effect threw the planet into a recession that now threatens to engulf the entire Federation. Millions of foreclosures. Millions of people under water. New colony construction grinds to a halt. The horror! The horror!
-- Trelane was just a misunderstood child playing out a fantasy.
-- The Horta were actually peaceful, but were forced into killing to defend themselves.
-- Mudd is just a guy who works in the gray areas of the law, sometimes getting caught on the wrong side of it.
-- The Talosians were actually trying to help Pike in "The Menagerie."
-- Gary Mitchell became villainous by accident.
Any one of them could create a conflict or some other type of problem for our heroes to resolve.
The problem is, regardless of who it is, we already know they aren't all bad. So, what twist would give it any freshness or create any new suspense? That's my question.
They did say they wanted to be topical. Oh! I know! Maybe it's Mudd. He was meddling in sub-prime mortgages on some planet and caused their housing market to collapse. The ripple effect threw the planet into a recession that now threatens to engulf the entire Federation. Millions of foreclosures. Millions of people under water. New colony construction grinds to a halt. The horror! The horror!
I'd say the Talosians are out of the running. The "butt-headed" big brained psychic aliens who wear robes and toy with humans have been parodied way too much (both links are a bit NSFW). They're right up there with little green men with antenna. There may still be a race of advanced aliens who have psychic powers, but I doubt they'll be called the Talosians or have that iconic appearance.
This is along the lines I was thinking too. However I don't want the whole movie to be about him, just a short homage.
While en-route to whatever the story's main mission is they get captured by Trelane. This is the first time Humans ever encountered an Omnipotent so in the course of playing Trelanes games, this time they literally get KILLED!
Trelanes parents, the Q, step in and set things aright. They then tell our happy to be alive heroes what happened, that their memories will be erased and promise Humans will never see the Q again.
*crickets chirping*
I hope it's Mudd. Can't wait to see the Abramsversion of this masterpiece:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlMegqgGORY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlMegqgGORY
I always loved that scene! It's too funny. Still, I don't know if Mudd can be a villain...
I'm hopeful of two things;
One - that this rumor is true, if only for the fact that it shows they have eliminated the idea of doing a Khan movie (which I think would be a massive blunder)
& Two - I hope it's a Pike-centric story involving the Talosians
That is all.
One - that this rumor is true, if only for the fact that it shows they have eliminated the idea of doing a Khan movie (which I think would be a massive blunder)
& Two - I hope it's a Pike-centric story involving the Talosians
That is all.
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