Who prefers Archer/T'Pol?
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Hey, Commie! How nice of you to chime in! I thought you only popped up when someone opened A/T or T/T threads...
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Actually, I've always been under the impression that Trip and T'Pol are of equal rank. The fact that she is left in charge when Archer leaves the ship or is incapacitated was more likely based on availability in the early days -- since Trip was generally needed in engineering -- and eventually based on the respect she had earned from the crew.
Trip always spoke to T'Pol as an equal on the job and off, whereas with Archer he was always deferential in their official relationship, and less formal in social situations.
Case in point:
Trip ignores her counsel concerning the cogenitor. Had she been his superior officer she would have made it a direct order and he would have had no choice but to obey or face disciplinary action. I believe she didn't make it a direct order because she didn't have that authority over him.
Trip always spoke to T'Pol as an equal on the job and off, whereas with Archer he was always deferential in their official relationship, and less formal in social situations.
Case in point:
Trip ignores her counsel concerning the cogenitor. Had she been his superior officer she would have made it a direct order and he would have had no choice but to obey or face disciplinary action. I believe she didn't make it a direct order because she didn't have that authority over him.
Indeed. In TNG we know that Riker is second in command on Picard's ship at all times. Even though we know that T'Pol is 1st Officer on Archer's ship, the chain of command between Trip and T'Pol only comes into play when Archer is either off the ship or incapacitated. T'Pol never even so much as gives a single order to Trip unless Archer is unable to captain. She comes close once, in the season 3 episode where she tells Trip she could order him to get some sleep, but apparently knowing it wouldn't mean anything, she asks Phlox to help her.
Favorite Archer/T'Pol scenes: the scene in Archer's quarters in Damage - the scene in Bound where she tells Archer that he needs to do something about the Orions. Her curt little "thank you" at the end of the conversation cracks me up.
You are far, far from alone on this one; particularly in relation to the events of Harbinger.
I would be interested to know the episodes in which Archer calls T'Pol his First Officer. I went hunting once, and all I found were scenes where he called her his Science Officer.
Okay, my bad, I guess...
So technically, she isn't an XO, just second in command?
Confirmed!
I checked through Season 1, never found "First Officer," and threw in the towel. Thank you!Does anyone know when "First Officer" is initially used on ENT? It would be interesting if Archer doesn't call T'Pol that until Season 3, after she has given up her commission.
I liked the sexual tension between Archer and T'Pol, but Trip/T'Pol is my fav Enterprise pairing.
What you call logical, I call yuck.
If you view the books as the official continuation of the story (as I do), it didn't happen.
Trip and T'Pol is my OTP.
However, I'm open to Archer/T'Pol, at least in terms of fanfic, etc. Some of it's pretty good, and I don't get all bent out of shape and offended by the idea of the pairing the way some TnTers do.
In terms of the show itself, though, I don't think it works. Speaking for myself, I think she had better chemistry with Trip.
However, I'm open to Archer/T'Pol, at least in terms of fanfic, etc. Some of it's pretty good, and I don't get all bent out of shape and offended by the idea of the pairing the way some TnTers do.
In terms of the show itself, though, I don't think it works. Speaking for myself, I think she had better chemistry with Trip.
I feel the same. My feeling is, the drugs didn't fuel the sex, or the attraction, or the feelings she had for Trip. I've always likened the Trellium to a human having a drink for "liquid courage"--alcohol doesn't make you do anything or put thoughts into your head that weren't there, it just makes it easier to act on whatever impulses and feelings you already have inside you by telling your internal censor to stfu. Things that you sublimate are allowed to surface--but nothing is "created" by the substance.
Well, there's really no reason for arguing here... I mean, the T/T-ers have the official books, A/T-ers have their fan fiction, so you see, there's something for everyone.
AgreedWell, there's really no reason for arguing here... I mean, the T/T-ers have the official books, A/T-ers have their fan fiction, so you see, there's something for everyone.
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