You have to go back to what TiberiusMaximus said a few pages ago; it explains the whole thing. You can't say much more than this:
Who prefers Archer/T'Pol?
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You have to go back to what TiberiusMaximus said a few pages ago; it explains the whole thing. You can't say much more than this:
Ah, but he did say more. TM's entire post, if I'm not mistaken, indicates that he is of the opinion that T'Pol had stronger feelings for Archer, and that he's a Trip/Hoshi shipper.
You have to go back to what TiberiusMaximus said a few pages ago; it explains the whole thing. You can't say much more than this:
But he does appear to hold the pragmatic perspective that it's just a TV show, and one's imagination (and fanfiction
) can often fashion a more emotionally satisfying situation. For any pairing.
I saw someone on YouTube was an Archer/Trip shipper...which is possible.
Just because I don't get to talk about my 'ships enough:
Archer/T'Pol
Hoshi/Trip
Reed/Photonic torpedoes (
)
Just because I don't get to talk about my 'ships enough:
Archer/T'Pol
Hoshi/Trip
Reed/Photonic torpedoes (
)
I have enormous respect for TM (no sarcasm) because he stated the truth about this topic. He didn't see it on TV, but it doesn't matter to him. He liked the concept of an A/T romance so he is seeking out unofficial sources of entertainment such as "AU episodes, books, and fanfic" to get it. He also said "I basically make up my own AU". He gave his opinion, short and sweet, and he didn't give a crap about what I thought or what any one else thought. Also note that he didn't try to convince anyone that he was right or that the majority of the fans (source: Michael Martian) are wrong for being fans of the canon romance. He just said what he liked. No character analysis, no parsing scenes or dialog looking for nuances and no long diatribes, because he knows it didn't happen on TV. He just gave his opinion, which was damn valid.Ah, but he did say more. TM's entire post, if I'm not mistaken, indicates that he is of the opinion that T'Pol had stronger feelings for Archer, and that he's a Trip/Hoshi shipper.
But he does appear to hold the pragmatic perspective that it's just a TV show, and one's imagination (and fanfiction
TM, you're OK in my book.
For which I am grateful, since there's no "right" or "wrong" about personal opinion. Good show, TM.
I don't see anything wrong with this. Lordy, Trip/T'Pol fans (including myself) have done it for YEARS.
For me, it's fun to fill in missing scenes, delve into subtext, speculate about motivations...no matter which scene or character or relationship. And with so many aspects of Enterprise that are interpreted differently by people, it's interesting and enlightening for me to hear other points of view, and discover stuff I hadn't seen before.
I found the Archer and Hoshi scenes in Mirror Darkly hotter than any other pairings throughout the series. Obviously they didn't exactly work out (
), but they looked so good together!
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hot!!
Archer and Erika were great together too. It would of been interesting for them to have some reunion time every now and then had the series continued. May have had a little bit of a Vash and Picard vibe to it.
), but they looked so good together!---->
Archer and Erika were great together too. It would of been interesting for them to have some reunion time every now and then had the series continued. May have had a little bit of a Vash and Picard vibe to it.
I found the Archer and Hoshi scenes in Mirror Darkly hotter than any other pairings throughout the series. Obviously they didn't exactly work out (
I really like Hoshi and Admiral Forrest in the MU. I think she actually cared for him rather than was just using him.
Thanks a lot, HopefulRomantic and Middleman.Yep...that's pretty much what I meant.HopefulRomantic said: TM's entire post, if I'm not mistaken, indicates that he is of the opinion that T'Pol had stronger feelings for Archer, and that he's a Trip/Hoshi shipper.
But he does appear to hold the pragmatic perspective that it's just a TV show, and one's imagination (and fanfiction
Same to you, Middleman.
Ok, I'll be the first one to say it (it's a tough job, but somebody's got to do it)....
I would have preferred Hoshi/T'Pol.
Agreed
Alright, anyone who's been around since the hey day of this board knows that I support Trip/T'Pol. However, I will say that I agree that there was definitely a deep friendship dynamic between Archer & T'Pol. Had T/T not happened and under different circumstances (removing the Commanding officer/subordinate roles) I could see the potential of that relationship deepening into something more than friendship.
Honestly, I think we all come from what makes us smile and wistful (and in some cases turned on) and put that onto our favorite character pairings or potential pairings. I find the opposites attract dynamic between Trip and T'Pol exciting and, well, frankly HOT. It gives me warm fuzzies thinking about their relationship and where it may have gone.
Other folk get that warm googly feeling when they see the potential of a relationship between two people who are more similar in wants, needs, etc. Other folk enjoy the steady calm of a relationship like that.
It's all subjective to our personal likes and dislikes -- to our personal views of what makes a good romance. There are no right or wrong 'ships. Personally I prefer Archer/Hoshi and my kinky ship: Soval/Amanda Cole. (That's right, I said it people. Let the stoning commence.
)
Honestly, I think we all come from what makes us smile and wistful (and in some cases turned on) and put that onto our favorite character pairings or potential pairings. I find the opposites attract dynamic between Trip and T'Pol exciting and, well, frankly HOT. It gives me warm fuzzies thinking about their relationship and where it may have gone.
Other folk get that warm googly feeling when they see the potential of a relationship between two people who are more similar in wants, needs, etc. Other folk enjoy the steady calm of a relationship like that.
It's all subjective to our personal likes and dislikes -- to our personal views of what makes a good romance. There are no right or wrong 'ships. Personally I prefer Archer/Hoshi and my kinky ship: Soval/Amanda Cole. (That's right, I said it people. Let the stoning commence.
)
^Hey I like Hoshi/Rostov so Soval/Cole is no stranger than the next 'ship to me
^Hey I like Hoshi/Rostov so Soval/Cole is no stranger than the next 'ship to me
HOSHI/ROSTOV is HOT!!!! They look great together. I wish we had seen more of Rostov.
As to Soval well.. he's mine. Sorry.
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Yummy!
Although I liked the episode overall, I didn't really buy the "evolved" relationship in the alternate timeline episode where Archer has the memory issues. How could Archer ever have time to develope any romantic feelings for T'Pol when every day he wakes up forgetting yesterday? Every day is the first day of his relationship with T'Pol and he already has to deal with learning that Earth had been destroyed evey day. Maybe T'Pol might have developed feelings for Archer over the years, but I can't see Archer having any time or mood for anything to evolve for him. I'm glad they left that vague oin the episode because that suggestion just doesn't make any sense.
Trip/T'Pol made sense from a story perspective anyway because they are the two main supporting characters of the lead character, like Ron Weasley and Hermione Granger are for Harry Potter. Besides, the captain's not allowed to fraternize that closely with officers under his direct command.
^It didn't seem to me that his feelings were evolving, hers were but he was staying the same. Captains aren't allowed to fraternize? What about Picard's girlfriend? She transferred not because they were breaking Starfleet regs but because she decided it was best.
Exactly. She and Picard both realized that it simply cannot be. When a Captain starts a romantic relationship with one if his crew, he de facto singles this person out, making it appear as if the rest of the crew simply aren't equal to her/him. Such relationship would create a bad atmosphere among the crew, the trust in their commanding officer would drop instantly because everyone would (at least subconsciously) expect favoritism.
Long story short, a Captain has no business fraternizing with the people he gives orders to.
Since Trip/T'Pol have been brought up, I would say no.
Of course, Archer/T'Pol fans can start their own appreciation thread if they wish.
Agreed. Even if Archer were to avoid "playing favorites" with T'Pol, the rest of the crew would question anytime she receives any professional commendation from him... even if it were earned honestly.
And as someone who has some experience in the military, I can say that this is a HUGE no-no. And while Starfleet is not "technically" military, considering that they do have rank, it stands to follow that the same kind of non-fraternization rules would apply.
I don't see Archer nor T'Pol to be the type to breach this code of conduct. Like I said in an earlier post, if they didn't have a commander/subordinate work relationship, I don't think it's completely out of left field that a romantic relationship could eventually develop. It is not my preference as a pairing, but I think it's not impossible either.
Eh, you're a dalliance. I'm booked for Pon Farr 6 years from now.. hmm..
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