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Who is the most Dangerous Time Traveler in Trek ?
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Yes it is. Since this is the third or fourth time I've had to edit posts with spoilers, I'm going to briefly pin something at the top of the forum.
I think I misspelled his name
He is the Temporal Officer from ST Voyager who got them stuck in 20th century Earth.
I have to vote McCoy because even if his potential damage was not as bad as many of the others, he is the one that could have altered my own personal history. And, I don't like to see anyone give advantage to Nazi's. Call it a weighted calculation on what is dangerous to me.
How the hell is Janeway not the default option?
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McCoy: Acquitted - side-effects of drug that was accidentally pumped into him
Quark: Acquitted - caught up in events not of his making initially, he tried an opportunity that wasn't malicious in of itself
Braxton: Acquitted - misbelief that going back in time to destroy Voyager would save a timeline
Sisko: Acquitted - went back in time to stop a bad guy from changing the timeline
Kirk: Acquitted - never changed the timeline, whether he was sent back by accident or deliberately to save Earth's future
The honorable mention Q: Acquitted - He took Picard back in time to give a hint to him that his actions, not Q's, would destroy humanity. Q was more an unconventional chaotic good, making him rather entertaining in my book.
Other:
Captain Janeway: Acquitted - Trying to take responsibility for her crew getting home sooner rather harmlessly.
Harry Kim: Acquitted - His mistake, he's trying to fix it. Geordi's being rather unfair.
Vorgons: Guilty.They may read bad poetry but whenever an alien comes across your path and says they're from the future and looking for a criminal, ask how many peeps from the future have access to such technology because chances are the good guys aren't going to go back in time in a transtemporal chase. And maybe they're sad beings just trying to get back to the Nexus by altering an entry ribbon's trajectory... I don't recall much said about the Vorgons or alleged crimes - only that they weren't the good guys in the end.
But there's also one other teensy incident I recall involving one chap:
Rasmussen: GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY AF. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. /campy
See, he deliberately went back in time not only to alter the future in a bad way (stealing technology to bring back home with), he also played with the fate of a civilization the great taxi cab Enterprise was there to save.
Quark: Acquitted - caught up in events not of his making initially, he tried an opportunity that wasn't malicious in of itself
Braxton: Acquitted - misbelief that going back in time to destroy Voyager would save a timeline
Sisko: Acquitted - went back in time to stop a bad guy from changing the timeline
Kirk: Acquitted - never changed the timeline, whether he was sent back by accident or deliberately to save Earth's future
The honorable mention Q: Acquitted - He took Picard back in time to give a hint to him that his actions, not Q's, would destroy humanity. Q was more an unconventional chaotic good, making him rather entertaining in my book.
Other:
Captain Janeway: Acquitted - Trying to take responsibility for her crew getting home sooner rather harmlessly.
Harry Kim: Acquitted - His mistake, he's trying to fix it. Geordi's being rather unfair.
Vorgons: Guilty.
But there's also one other teensy incident I recall involving one chap:
Rasmussen: GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY AF. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY. /campy
See, he deliberately went back in time not only to alter the future in a bad way (stealing technology to bring back home with), he also played with the fate of a civilization the great taxi cab Enterprise was there to save.
I am not sure I would absolve Quark quite so easily. Granted, he did not create the conditions that sent him back in time.
However -
Quark was well aware of he conflict with the Dominion and Earth's pivotal role to stop the invasion of the Alpha quadrant. And yet he was willing to put an entire Quadrant, including his own homeworld , at risk to create his own little Earth Monopoly. Quark is intelligent, very well aware of the overall situation and certainly capable of understanding what damage he could do, but was ready to attempt it anyway. To me this puts him relatively high on my list of offenders.
Janeway.
She didn't accidentally mess with the timeline. She deliberately changed the past to get a timeline she preferred. Repeatedly.
She didn't accidentally mess with the timeline. She deliberately changed the past to get a timeline she preferred. Repeatedly.
I'm going with Annorax and Janeway.
I wonder how many millions, how many billions, of lives she saved by destroying the Borg hub?
Anyway, Nero was pretty bad. Destroyed Vulcan (what was the population on Vulcan at the time? Billions?). Killed George Kirk and all those cats. Just for revenge over something that wasn't Vulcan's fault in the first place.
What exactly is 'dangerous'?
The sheer potential for destruction? Then I'd vote Q, who risked the entire Alpha quadrant (and perhaps more of the galaxy) with his riddle for Picard. But he also could have put it right with a single snap of his fingers...
Ruthlessness ? Then I'd vote for Annorax, who saw no problems in annihilating entire races just in order to restore Kylana prime. Then again I'm not sure if Annorax qualifies as a time traveler in the first place.
Is it 'I want my way and damn the consequences'? That would be Endgame Janeway . (who usually is depicted as averse to time travel but there are other quotes from other episodes that show little regard for the timeline, such as ""I don't care if history itself comes unraveled, I want to know".)
Is it playing with something potentially dangerous in an incompetent manner that could cause huge damage? That would be Rasmussen.
And so on ...
The sheer potential for destruction? Then I'd vote Q, who risked the entire Alpha quadrant (and perhaps more of the galaxy) with his riddle for Picard. But he also could have put it right with a single snap of his fingers...
Ruthlessness ? Then I'd vote for Annorax, who saw no problems in annihilating entire races just in order to restore Kylana prime. Then again I'm not sure if Annorax qualifies as a time traveler in the first place.
Is it 'I want my way and damn the consequences'? That would be Endgame Janeway . (who usually is depicted as averse to time travel but there are other quotes from other episodes that show little regard for the timeline, such as ""I don't care if history itself comes unraveled, I want to know".)
Is it playing with something potentially dangerous in an incompetent manner that could cause huge damage? That would be Rasmussen.
And so on ...
Kirk, after he'd given up on life in the 2280's. He goes from EDITH MUST DIE to casually taking Jillian Taylor out of the 1980's with zero regard for consequences.
He also took the whale. Who knows what good or bad that whale (or her descendants) would have done if not taken into the future.
Also, if one studies the butterfly effect in chaos theory, one has to wonder what storms might be created or altered by flying a space ship in the atmosphere.
The winner of all these except the last: The Borg (Queen).
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