Spoilers Who is the mastermind in Season 3 of Picard?

[Yistaan]

Jack: I'm a Borg born of Locutus sperm! Resistance is futile Captain Shaw! (jabs Shaw in the neck)

Shaw: AAARRGGHH!!! (goes down on the floor writhing and rolling back and forth)

Sidney La Forge: How could you?

Jack (whispers): I haven't done anything to him. Just poked him with my fingers after shouting cliche Borg lines to see how he'd react. I wonder how long before he realizes the trick.

 

[trekfan_1]

Matalas said there are no Borg this season. Yet it's all pointing to Borg.

Where was this said? Can you cite it for me?

 

[ELWOOD5892]

I’m a long time lurker. Never post but thought I shared something that could be something. Could be nothing. I personally think the big bad is Locutus. I feel locutus is a program of sorts like the queen. Maybe he can only inhabit someone like Picard who had whatever was going on in his brain that Jack also possess. And when Picard was separated from locutus maybe he got lost in the Borg ether and with the recent upheaval maybe re appeared.
But anyways going back to episode 4 when Shaw is telling the story of Locutus to Jack when he mentions the name of Locutus Jack kinda gulps and looks around nervously. Maybe it’s because he know his old man was Locutus or maybe he subconsciously has a connection to Locutus and has a reaction. Probably looking into it too much but found it interesting.

 

[God's Starship]

I'd love it to be the Pah Wraiths but that would require SO much exposition to explain that in the final 2 episodes. And while this season has def been catered towards old school fans, it still needs to be accessible to those who aren't steeped in 90s Trek knowledge. Changelings are shapeshifters, easy to explain even if you haven't seen DS9.

I think it's just gonna be Borg related.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

How would it even be Locutus? We saw Picard's body and it wasn't borgified. Floating Heady Guy has seemingly been active since before the first episode aired.

I look at it kind of like Locutus being the Borg King. He wasn't a new identity created for Captain Picard. He's old (ancient, even ) He's taken many forms, but to aid the Borg with their assault against the Federation, the Borg installed Locutus into Picard. When the Enterprise put the Borg to sleep and de-Borgified Picard, Locutus was cut off from the Collective and wasn't able to find another host body to download himself into. So, maybe, after they removed the Borg components from Picard, they took the Locutus bits and moved it to Daystrom Station, where eventually Vadic stumbled upon him and they formed a pact to rid the galaxy of solids with individual thought. Locutus and Vadic also discovered through examining records on Picard's corpse, that Picard kept residual Borg nanites that were passed down to Jack, which he can pass on to others through touch, and even control said people, if need be.

Oooohhh shit. I had an idea. What if, instead of Picard having to fight his own reanimated corpse inhabited by Locutus, Locutus takes the form of Shaw? He would then see, first hand, what Seven and Picard had to endure and that neither one were in no position to stop the Borg?

 

[gweeps]

Whatever it is, I sincerely hope it's not some silly retcon. Been enough of that in Picard already, or glossed over history in lieu of fan service.

 

[Yistaan]

Whatever it is, I sincerely hope it's not some silly retcon. Been enough of that in Picard already, or glossed over history in lieu of fan service.

Chances are high it will be. We don't know of any telepathic aliens who've infected Picard except for Sarek. If it's the Borg thing that everyone's claiming here, then it's already a retcon because no Borg has ever shown Charles Xavier level powers that Jack has.

 

[Enterprise is Great]

Isn’t it possible that this mastermind has nothing to do with any previous Trek villain at all?

Also, if it is the Pah Wraiths I can’t imagine doing them without Sisko being involved at all. It wouldn’t make any sense what with him being the Emmisary of the Prophets the enemies of the Pah Wraiths.

 

[thribs]

Isn’t it possible that this mastermind has nothing to do with any previous Trek villain at all?

Also, if it is the Pah Wraiths I can’t imagine doing them without Sisko being involved at all. It wouldn’t make any sense what with him being the Emmisary of the Prophets the enemies of the Pah Wraiths.

Could be but if that’s the case, why keep it a secret for so long?

 

[bolak]

Go on, make it be the crawly critters from Conspiracy come to exact their revenge on Picard.

 

[johnnybear]

Identifying Locutus as an ancient mind from the Borg history is a cool notion indeed! It was always stated in the episode and more that it was an identity given to Picard so the Borg could directly speak with the Federation and also to show them what happens to their heroes when they defy a more greater extraterrestrial force!
JB

 

[Search4]

Spoiler: Episode 9 Ready Room Clip

Troi looked horrified from what she saw in the red door. Must be her mother.

I’ve been calling Luxwana from the start.

Into Picard
Wants his child
Telepathic
Etc

Needs a good Starfleet motivation. Perhaps to rule?

Separately- why does Vadic make the point to Jack about feeling guilty? Who might be ancient / weak / feel guilty?

 

[SJGardner]

Deanna took the Sacred Chalice of Rixx with herself and accidentally misplaced it when visiting Doctor Zimmerman on Jupiter Station. Believing it to be destroyed, Lwaxana wants to take petty revenge on her daughter by destroying Starfleet in turn.

 

[AntonyF]

It's Masaka isn't it.

Came to post this. Beat me to it.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Soji!

 

[Eric Bean]

Pah Wraiths is such a stretch. You'd have to spend the whole 9th episode explaining to the audience who they are what their motivation is.

Im saying it's going to be an additional layer to Locutus and that he is indeed ancient, weak and needs Jack as his host.

 

[urbandk]

Pah Wraiths is such a stretch. You'd have to spend the whole 9th episode explaining to the audience who they are what their motivation is.

Im saying it's going to be an additional layer to Locutus and that he is indeed ancient, weak and needs Jack as his host.

Yeah this series might be 90% directed towards fans who already have an encyclopedic knowledge of TNG, but there are basics of storytelling that the pah wraiths (or god forbid armus) would violate.

They've been telegraphing Borg ever since the beginning with Shaw and that hellfire virus and stuff with Seven etc. At least they made stuff red instead of green.

I'll be really surprised if it's something else. I wish they had just told us what was up about 3 episodes ago.

If it's not Locutus I'm hoping it's Picard's zombie mother.

 

[Sketcher]

Soji!

I honestly miss Soji the last couple seasons. Especially now with Data back in the picture.

 

[Sketcher]

If it's not Locutus I'm hoping it's Picard's zombie mother.

Another mystery who was trapped behind a door.

 

[Stuart Wilson]

It's obviously Locutus. The whole season is a love letter to TNG. The villain needs to be someone from TNG, Picard's ultimate enemy, that means either the Borg, or Q, the latter's story was dealt with (satisfactorily imho, despite the padding) last season and anyway, Q was dangerous, capricious yes, but not evil or murderous, anyway he was omnipotent so wouldn't need a complicated plan to destroy Starfleet.
No it has to be the Borg, and one Borg in particular. Locutus. He's been name checked and explained by Shaw already this season just to remind us of him. He needs Picards body because it was once his (or some other timey-wimey reason, I'm sure they can think of one) and he needs Jack because, well, ditto.
As has been pointed out, all the other ideas, Pah-Waiths etc, require too much exposition and they aren't Picard's real nemesis (pun intended). Locutus is.