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Who is going to win this election in November?

Who will win the general presidential election?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 37 22.7%
  • Hillary Clinton

    Votes: 126 77.3%

  • Total voters
    163
  • Poll closed .
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Just another conspiracy theory.
And that's how they work. By getting you to dismiss and ignore the possibility. Is it really that farfetched to think the politicians have figured out how to manufacture fake rivalry to inspire team loyalty? There are many who think the two parties are basically the same once you peel away the public ideologies. For instance, look at how little foreign policy changes whether the Pres is Red or Blue. Obama is blue. He won the Nobel PEACE Price. He's been the bombingest Pres ever.
 
And that's how they work. By getting you to dismiss and ignore the possibility.
No, that's not how conspiracy theories work at all. The burden of proof is on the proponent. Conspiracy theories don't go away because their proponents don't understand that. That's how they work.
 
No, that's not how conspiracy theories work at all. The burden of proof is on the proponent. Conspiracy theories don't go away because their proponents don't understand that. That's how they work.
You completely misunderstood what I said. Besides, its not really that far-fetched an idea. We're not talking JFK or moon landing material here. It's not so much a conspiracy theory as a wondering aloud based on events and evidence. I don't believe the Republicans and Democrats are colluding behind the scenes but I'm willing to entertain the possibility. Not every possibility you aren't willing to consider is a "conspiracy theory".
 
There's a few differences. First, Brexit was a simple majority vote. The US Presidential election is won by amassing 270 electoral votes. Second, Trump just doesn't have the coalition of voters needed to make it close, like Brexit was always was. He can lose entire states (like Ohio and Virginia), and valuable electoral votes, simply because his numbers with minorities are shit. And women. And like I said above, he's behind Romney's 2012 numbers even among those who support him.

His path to victory is narrow. A lot has to change for him to tighten this up before November. Hillary needs to have horrible debates for him to even get close going into election day.
If Trump were to win the majority of total votes cast but lose in the electoral college, I fear all hell breaking lose. When it's happened previously, the losing candidates and their supporters weren't (nearly as) enormous, self-entitled douche bags but perhaps the passage of time has dulled the outrage that was felt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...winner_lost_popular_vote#2000:_George_W._Bush
 
OK...well... maybe we could talk about conspiracy theories like that in another thread, if I'm not too busy. It's too off-topic for me to feel comfortable continuing on about in this one.
 
OK...well... maybe we could talk about conspiracy theories like that in another thread, if I'm not too busy. It's too off-topic for me to feel comfortable continuing on about in this one.
It's cool. If you aren't comfortable talking about something, then........don't.
 
To clarify, and restate, my discomfort per se arises only from dragging the thread off-topic.
Umm no. I tied my idea in with Trump and politics in general. You don't decide for everyone if an idea is off topic or a "conspiracy theory" just because you aren't comfortable with it. Again, if you aren't comfortable with the nature of a post, you aren't obligated to respond to it.
 
If Trump were to win the majority of total votes cast but lose in the electoral college, I fear all hell breaking lose. When it's happened previously, the losing candidates and their supporters weren't (nearly as) enormous, self-entitled douche bags but perhaps the passage of time has dulled the outrage that was felt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...winner_lost_popular_vote#2000:_George_W._Bush
I wouldn't worry about that. He won't win the popular vote.
 
I get it, There are a lot of white people who were raised a certain way and they pass it down and not all kids reject their upbringing. There are still plenty of white people who resent having to share America with minorities (and by "minorities" I include women and gays). They really do see America as "their" country. That is, a white male controlled country where minorities are "allowed" to participate as long as they "behave" and accept their 2nd class citizen status and let the white men call the shots.
 
Is Trump trying to lose? Is the fix in? The last few elections have had me wondering about collusion. Was Palin a deliberately awful pick for VP? Did Romney deliberately tank his campaign by doing a horrible job? Do the Democratic and Republican parties get along much better behind the scenes than they want the public think they do?


OK suppose that's true. What's to gain from doing that on purpose?
 
Nobody is claiming they can't say it. We're saying it's disgusting and we hope that nobody in their right mind would support this bullshit and we wish that the Republican candidate didn't encourage this disgusting behavior.


Could they be doing that and hoping that it plays into the "politics of fear" and using fear?
 
If Trump were to win the majority of total votes cast but lose in the electoral college, I fear all hell breaking lose. When it's happened previously, the losing candidates and their supporters weren't (nearly as) enormous, self-entitled douche bags but perhaps the passage of time has dulled the outrage that was felt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...winner_lost_popular_vote#2000:_George_W._Bush
Trump is currently tracking to get less support than Romney did. He can't win the popular vote unless some huge shift happens. As it is, he's got only about 40% support among his base. Romney got 47%, and Romney didn't alienate traditional Republicans like Trump has.

Unless Hillary faces a revolt of disgruntled Sanders voters somewhere in the 5 million range that all desert her and vote for Jill Stein (unlikely), Trump can't even get close to winning the popular vote the way things stand. His support gap among female voters alone is enough to sink him.

We don't have to worry about this being another Bush/Gore the way things are going.
 
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