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Who invented Khan?

The most basic issue there is that there are no "shock waves" in a vacuum,
My mistake, I added shock "wave" to the event, but Khan only said "shock", so, it could be the shock of debris impact and/or gravitational shock.
he odds that any disruption could move one planet into the identical orbit of a different one are infinitesimal.
hence, "unbelievable coincidence", a trope for Star Trek.
 
My mistake, I added shock "wave" to the event, but Khan only said "shock", so, it could be the shock of debris impact and/or gravitational shock.

Neither of which would work either, as I already discussed. And "gravitational shock" is not a thing. It would be more just a minor, gradual redistribution of gravitational influence.

hence, "unbelievable coincidence", a trope for Star Trek.

But the unbelievables in The Wrath of Khan add up to a far more absurd piece of writing than most Star Trek that preceded it, though sadly not that much of what followed it. That's presumably part of why Gene Roddenberry wasn't fond of it, because he always wanted Star Trek to be smart, scientifically literate, and plausible, within the bounds of budgetary limits and dramatic license.
 
Neither of which would work either, as I already discussed. And "gravitational shock" is not a thing. It would be more just a minor, gradual redistribution of gravitational influence.



But the unbelievables in The Wrath of Khan add up to a far more absurd piece of writing than most Star Trek that preceded it, though sadly not that much of what followed it. That's presumably part of why Gene Roddenberry wasn't fond of it, because he always wanted Star Trek to be smart, scientifically literate, and plausible, within the bounds of budgetary limits and dramatic license.
Except when it wasn't .
 
Except when it wasn't .

Exactly. Those were the times it fell short of its aspirations. They were not the baseline for what we should expect of it. What people today have forgotten is that the whole reason ST is still popular while most of its SFTV contemporaries from the 1960s-80s were failures is that it set the bar higher than everything else, even if it didn't always clear it.
 
Could Starfleet have classified as much about the system, besides a planet of augments existed? Maybe reliant was not cleared to know system details now, assuming the system was even monitored?
 
This is why I'm kind of okay with the novelization's explanation that Reliant had access to old probe data (but not any data Enterprise may have captured), and just assumed the old probe data was glitchy.

This is making me a little tempted to re-read that part of the novelization.
 
Where does it say decades for Marla's death?

I never thought it was a fact that the child was Khan's. It was only reference to a supposed prop painting -- in an interview with someone in a magazine?
No disrespect, but this is like the supposed Harve Bennett quote about Rhue that we've never been able to locate.

Saying "I saw it in an interview" is just a game of telephone.
 
Didn't Adam Spong create Khan according to PIC season 2? In all seriousness, I didn't know this production history, it's interesting
He was shown holding a file called "Project Khan."
PIC-S2-E10-216.jpg

And IIRC he was involved with some sort of program that experimented on veterans. My head canon (Khanon?) is Soong started Project Khan in the 90s and the experiments on vets were a part of that research. He revived the program later under the guise of the The Noonien-Singh Institute for Cultural Advancement which birthed Khan Noonien Singh and his cohort.
 
He was shown holding a file called "Project Khan."
PIC-S2-E10-216.jpg

And IIRC he was involved with some sort of program that experimented on veterans. My head canon (Khanon?) is Soong started Project Khan in the 90s and the experiments on vets were a part of that research. He revived the program later under the guise of the The Noonien-Singh Institute for Cultural Advancement which birthed Khan Noonien Singh and his cohort.
So was Khan named after the project or something?
 
He was shown holding a file called "Project Khan."

Which is ridiculous, because Khan wasn't the only eugenic superhuman, he was one of hundreds. He turned out to be the most successful conqueror of the lot, but that wouldn't have been known before the fact. It's a classic case of writers mistaking what's important to the audience for what would be important in-universe.
 
Which is ridiculous, because Khan wasn't the only eugenic superhuman, he was one of hundreds. He turned out to be the most successful conqueror of the lot, but that wouldn't have been known before the fact. It's a classic case of writers mistaking what's important to the audience for what would be important in-universe.
It was dumb but they wanted an "Aha! moment.".
 
Thankfully, "Khan" is a title as well as a name. If they wanted to create people who would be superior leaders, naming the project that would make sense. If little Khan was the geneticist's pet in his cohort, it makes sense they might name him after the project.
 
Which is ridiculous, because Khan wasn't the only eugenic superhuman, he was one of hundreds. He turned out to be the most successful conqueror of the lot, but that wouldn't have been known before the fact. It's a classic case of writers mistaking what's important to the audience for what would be important in-universe.
Yeah I want to forget PIC ever was made at this point
 
"If you're wondering how he eats and breathes, and other science facts, just repeat to yourself it's just a show, I should really just relax."

I heard that somewhere...
 
"If you're wondering how he eats and breathes, and other science facts, just repeat to yourself it's just a show, I should really just relax."

I heard that somewhere...

Which applies to a lot of things, but shouldn't apply to Star Trek, one of the first SFTV series whose creators made a serious effort to figure out the "science facts" with assistance from expert consultants.
 
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