Who had the worst romance subplot

[Mareika]

I didn`t like Worf and Deanna. it`s the worst for me.

On the other hand I like Chakotay/ Seven. I think they are a very cute couple. Too bad they weren`t allowed to build up the relationsship some episodes before.
I know, Jery and Robert asked the producers (after "Human Error", the romantic holodeck episode ) during the shooting of "Natural Law" if they should develop the relationsship. And the writers said "NO"!! There will be nothing between them!!!
But I can see the attraction between them. And I love them.

 

[plynch]

I went 7/Chuckles. SO lame. But they always are. It's an easy go-to that a bunch of fans will squee over.

Odo longing for Kira. "Love" is Earth nature's way to pair-bond humans, prob. because our offspring take so long to get grown up and out of our basements. Odo's not even like in the same class of matter as humans, and now he's "in love" with Kira.

Weird/random pairings must be one of the jump-the-shark signs.

 

[Enterprise1701]

Romance is overrated.

 

[2takesfrakes]

"Overrated"? I don't know about that ...

 

[Kobayshi Maru]

Romance is overrated.

Especially in sci. fi. series.

 

[Smellincoffee]

Chakotay and Seven! It's as though in the final season they decided they needed a ratings boost with a relationship, so they took their most alluring woman and grabbed the only single 'real' person from the cast. It would have worked better with the Doctor -- that scene with him realizing something's happening while singing "You Are my Sunshine" was brilliant.

 

[borgboy]

However strange the pairing is, the Doctor's feelings for Seven were well developed and explored, and that would've been a relationship that I could support.

 

[Drone]

Something tells me that it was never romantic on Kes' end. She agreed to it, out of gratitude for being taken away from the horrible Kazons and their atrocious manners. But gratitude only gets you so far. She discovered that if she didn't do anything about it. Neelix would be the last person in her life and that would scare any normal person...

I strongly felt that her feelings for him were romantic and I think it was shown displayed frequently, in small gestures and then consistently throughout certain episodes. Her devotion and ardor for him are evident in Parturition and Twisted, for example. Now, one can make the argument, and it was mentioned by the Doctor, that her awareness of what was entailed in a committed relationship was colored by the fact that this one was her first. She likely had never given serious thought before as to what characteristics she would look for in a significant other and how to define realistic expectations and goals as the bond developed.

Saying that doesn't trivialize or invalidate the affection that Kes expressed, at least IMO. Also, I don't see that she fundamentally has it in her to maintain the facade of a true relationship as a means of showing gratitude, even for being extricated from an existential threat. Loyalty was certainly something she greatly valued, but it wouldn't prompt her to put on a false front of feelings that weren't actually in motion.

The negative bias about the age difference and its implications is something I find rather superficial as well. While his personal history, motivations and convictions made Neelix a pretty complex character, I feel that his emotional persona was manifested in a simple, childlike form and on this basis there was in fact a symmetry, at least outwardly, in the pairing.

However, at base I think that he always had an intuitive sense that Kes was the one that embodied much more highly developed qualities of wisdom and maturity and was in many ways his superior. His Man of the Universe pose, quoting experience and savvy as justification for protecting Kes from her own supposed naivete, seems mere window dressing to mask his insecurity and lack of self-esteem as well as fear of losing the love of this deeper, and in his sight, more worthy soul.

 

[maneth]

Chakotay and Seven. It was just so random with no buildup at all. I wonder if there's any truth to the tale that the whole thing is based on Beltran's facetious suggestion?

Was there ever any real romance between Troi and Worf? Worf experienced it in an alternate reality in Parallels and Deanna in her mind in Eye of the Beholder. Worf's seduction of her was too human to be the real thing.

 

[Mojochi]

You missed Scotty and Uhura.

And I suppose some would say nuSpock and nuUhura.

I don't think there ever was something involving non platonic thoughts between Scotty and Uhura.

There was some kind of awkward creepiness in The Final Frontier. I blame Sybok, that jerk. Leave everbody 's pain alone dickweed. It's apparently the only thing stopping Geriatric Scotty from doodling Uhura.

The NuTrek Spock & Uhura thing is just desperate dreck, devised solely because they have no other idea of what to do with her. I'm able to stomach a lot about NuTrek, for entertainment's sake, but that they reduced Bones' character from a major character to a bit player, so they could feature that crappy romance instead, is totally absurd.

 

[C.E. Evans]

Was there ever any real romance between Troi and Worf? Worf experienced it in an alternate reality in Parallels and Deanna in her mind in Eye of the Beholder.

It really kind of began for them in these two episodes, but they were kind of bonding (usually with Alexander) in earlier episodes like "Ethics" and "A Fistful of Datas." It could be said that their relationship began just as TNG was ending and was over as soon as the show was.

 

[Greg Cox]

I had honestly repressed all memory of the O'Brian/Kira thing, which I'm now going to try to forget about again.

But Chakotay/Seven is the bottom of the barrel when it comes to failed chemistry experiments and out-of-the-blue romances . . .

 

[Shazam!]

O'Brian / Kira was played purely for the LULZ for one episode. There was nothing in it at all and certainly not worth anyone giving it a second thought over.

 

[Goji]

Troi/Worf and Chakotay/Seven are about equal in that they were both seemingly designed to be the single worst thing about their respective series' finale. But Endgame had plenty more suck where that came from, while All Good Things was fairly solid otherwise. So Troi/Worf looks worse by comparison.

 

[Greg Cox]

Romance is overrated.

Especially in sci. fi. series.

On the other, possibly the most famous Trek episode of all, "City on the Edge of Forever," is basically a tragic love story.

Never quite understood the idea that sex and romance don't belong in Star Trek or SF. It's a basic human motivation, along with revenge, curiosity, compassion, etc. Good science fiction is not just about technobabble and futuristic hardware; it's about people and their conflicts and reactions. That's where the "fiction" in science fiction comes in.

So, unless you're only dealing with emotionless robots, you're going to have relationships and crushes and broken hearts--even in science fiction.

 

[borgboy]

Troi/Worf and Chakotay/Seven are about equal in that they were both seemingly designed to be the single worst thing about their respective series' finale. But Endgame had plenty more suck where that came from, while All Good Things was fairly solid otherwise. So Troi/Worf looks worse by comparison.

Like them or not (And I am a Troi/Riker shipper - but I did think Troi and Worf had interesting moments), Troi and Worf's relationship was built up over several episodes. Troi and Worf grew closer as she became his child's godmother and essentially his surrogate mother, and Worf experienced several alternate realities where Troi was his wife, even the mother to two children with him, so that he saw her in a different light. Their pairing had time invested in the story as opposed to Seven and Chakotay whose romance was just thrown out there in just a few minutes at the end of the series.

TNG's finale left Worf and Troi's romance very unclear in it's future after Worf and Riker learned of a future where that relationship contributed to Troi's death. A whole novel, Imzadi II:Triangle chronicled the end of Worf and Troi's relationship.

 

[HIjol]

OP, I did vote, but my worst romantic sublot EVER was Wesley and Anya in "The Dauphin"...

 

[HIjol]

You missed Scotty and Uhura.

And I suppose some would say nuSpock and nuUhura.

I don't think there ever was something involving non platonic thoughts between Scotty and Uhura.

There was some kind of awkward creepiness in The Final Frontier. I blame Sybok, that jerk. Leave everbody 's pain alone dickweed. It's apparently the only thing stopping Geriatric Scotty from doodling Uhura.

The NuTrek Spock & Uhura thing is just desperate dreck, devised solely because they have no other idea of what to do with her. I'm able to stomach a lot about NuTrek, for entertainment's sake, but that they reduced Bones' character from a major character to a bit player, so they could feature that crappy romance instead, is totally absurd.

...your Pain runs deep, Man! .."doodling"...you are killing me... ...for what it is worth, I am an total agreement with you...

 

[Melakon]

I'll say Sulu, since the closest he got to a romance subplot was with a plant in "The Man Trap". Though one of those space hippie chicks in "The Way to Eden" might have been willing to do anything to get him to disaffect. "You make it tempting."

His Mirror Universe counterpart was rejected by Uhura Prime, though maybe he had better luck with Mirror Uhura after she got back from that horrible adventure and needed some comforting.

 

[wulfio]

quark and the klingon

any relationship involving a ferengi really.