Who Gave Odo the Virus/Disease in Broken Link
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I think that was established in season 7. Bashir had to go into Sloan's mind to get the cure.
Broken Link was in S4, Homefront was in S5
"Homefront"/"Paradise Lost" is season four. Just watched it the other day.
I thought it was from when he was linking around with that 'female' changing.
I thought he was infected at Starfleet Medical?
There were two infections—the one that compelled him to return to the Founders’ homeworld to be judged in the Great Link for killing the other Changeling (Broken Link), and the infection created by Section 31 and given to Odo at Starfleet Medical (Homefront/ Paradise Lost).
The first infection could have come from anywhere, but was not contagious to the other Changelings.
The first infection could have come from anywhere, but was not contagious to the other Changelings.
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Timeline as I see it
The Search Pt2, s03e02, reports about the danger of the dominion and the truth of the founders passed to s31
Adversary, and odo killing the changing, was s3e26
Homefront was s4e11 when odo linked briefly with a changeling on earth infecting him with a changeling virus compelling him to return
Paradise lost, martial law declared and s31 have a chance to infect odo (s4e12 )
Broken link s4e26 he returned and the founders cured him of their disease (making him solid), but passing on the s31 disease (unknown to the link). Odo as a solid didn’t have the disease.
Behind the lines (s6e03) has now-gooey odo link with the female founder and she passed it on to odo
The Search Pt2, s03e02, reports about the danger of the dominion and the truth of the founders passed to s31
Adversary, and odo killing the changing, was s3e26
Homefront was s4e11 when odo linked briefly with a changeling on earth infecting him with a changeling virus compelling him to return
Paradise lost, martial law declared and s31 have a chance to infect odo (s4e12 )
Broken link s4e26 he returned and the founders cured him of their disease (making him solid), but passing on the s31 disease (unknown to the link). Odo as a solid didn’t have the disease.
Behind the lines (s6e03) has now-gooey odo link with the female founder and she passed it on to odo
Back from the holidays...
So, my take:
1) Odo reaches Alpha.
2) The Dominion learns of Alpha, inserts all sorts of agents, starts planning a takeover plus recovery of Odo.
3) The Federation learns of the Dominion. S31 starts planning a bioweapon to preempt or win the upcoming war.
4) "Adversary": Odo ruins his chances of getting peacefully readopted.
5) "Homefront": S31 injects Odo with a bioweapon that will kill slowly all Founders, including Odo. Hopes for the Founders to again try and get Odo.
6) "Broken Link": the Founders oblige, triggering their own thing in Odo, inserted by their agent in red Chalan. It's not deadly and is not related to the bioweapon in any fashion. Odo infects the Link and the Founders start dying. But the Founders Solidify Odo, who thus is cured - or at least has the weapon effect put on hold.
7) "The Begotten": the Founders decide Odo has served his sentence and bribe Quark to give Odo the Changeling baby basically for free. The baby lifts the Solidity sentence and, having served its task, dies. Odo possibly again starts advancing towards his inevitable death from the bioweapon.
8) "Behind the Lines": if Odo wasn't re-infected already, he now is.
9) "Extreme Measures": the cure is uncovered and Odo healed.
10) "What You Leave Behind": Odo brings the cure to the Link, which promptly judges him for his treason and executes him.
It's too much to expect that Odo's collapse in "Broken Link" could have been coincidence, which it would need to be if this were related to the S31 bioweapon... A re-infection around "Behind the Lines" works fine in terms of progression of symptoms, but so does re-onset of effects in "The Begotten", give or take.
Timo Saloniemi
Why not?
I mean, I see zero reason for them to think well of Odo. He's the one who almost got them all killed with that thing in the first place. He's the one who fought against them, and killed many of them. He has been corrupted by Solids, and has corrupted a loyal Founder into surrendering when she could have kept on killing millions instead.
The Founders hate change, perversely enough. Killing Odo is the simplest way to maintain status quo. And what could he possibly have to say in his defense? "Not all Solids are evil - just consider my close friends who unleashed a bioweapon on you instead of just firing disruptors or dropping bombs"?
Timo Saloniemi
I mean, I see zero reason for them to think well of Odo. He's the one who almost got them all killed with that thing in the first place. He's the one who fought against them, and killed many of them. He has been corrupted by Solids, and has corrupted a loyal Founder into surrendering when she could have kept on killing millions instead.
The Founders hate change, perversely enough. Killing Odo is the simplest way to maintain status quo. And what could he possibly have to say in his defense? "Not all Solids are evil - just consider my close friends who unleashed a bioweapon on you instead of just firing disruptors or dropping bombs"?
Timo Saloniemi
Dunno about that. Supposedly getting the Founders killed would result in lots of rampaging from the Jem'Hadar, which is bad for the galaxy.
But the Founders certainly should have killed Odo, not just for his past crimes, but also for the threat he posed. For Odo's part, killing them preemptively would not be the best way to stay alive. Just having some stupid robot deliver the cure would have worked fine, too (it is just some colored liquid you inject into a Changeling, as seen when Odo got cured), in keeping the messenger safe from retribution.
Timo Saloniemi
But the Founders certainly should have killed Odo, not just for his past crimes, but also for the threat he posed. For Odo's part, killing them preemptively would not be the best way to stay alive. Just having some stupid robot deliver the cure would have worked fine, too (it is just some colored liquid you inject into a Changeling, as seen when Odo got cured), in keeping the messenger safe from retribution.
Timo Saloniemi
But no Changeling has ever harmed another. I don’t think they would have changed that, especially when he brought them the cure. And he would have brought the female Changeling’s willingness to surrender.
Curing the Link remotely would have been cowardly and I don’t think Odo would have agreed to it.
Curing the Link remotely would have been cowardly and I don’t think Odo would have agreed to it.
There’s no good reason to think the Founders would have killed Odo. That’s just one poster projecting his own cynicism on the story.
Even in season 6 they had forgiven him and wanted him back.
Even in season 6 they had forgiven him and wanted him back.
All that pardoning stuff came before the Founders learned that Odo was the one who was killing them all (and perhaps already had killed many), though.
And Changelings were always trying to kill Odo: he was known to be aboard in "The Adversary" and would have died with all the rest had his assailant not revealed himself and allowed the heroes to act on the upcoming disaster. Odo was also going to die in "By Inferno's Light", with all the rest, in the nova-bombing. And the Jem'Hadar didn't go easy on him even when "Colonel Lovok" gave him a runabout to escape in, in "The Die is Cast". (And other field troops were doing their damnedest to blow him up in other engagements such as "Treachery, Faith and the Great River", although that couldn't directly be blamed on fellow Changelings.)
Presumably, the Changeling credo would only extend to "No Changeling will lift a finger to prevent the unfortunate death of another". And that before they found out that Odo was a mass murderer who, after doing what might count as "effective repenting", still strongly sided with those who provided him with the murder weapon and sent him to kill. I just can't see things reaching the point where the Link would actually listen.
Timo Saloniemi
And Changelings were always trying to kill Odo: he was known to be aboard in "The Adversary" and would have died with all the rest had his assailant not revealed himself and allowed the heroes to act on the upcoming disaster. Odo was also going to die in "By Inferno's Light", with all the rest, in the nova-bombing. And the Jem'Hadar didn't go easy on him even when "Colonel Lovok" gave him a runabout to escape in, in "The Die is Cast". (And other field troops were doing their damnedest to blow him up in other engagements such as "Treachery, Faith and the Great River", although that couldn't directly be blamed on fellow Changelings.)
Presumably, the Changeling credo would only extend to "No Changeling will lift a finger to prevent the unfortunate death of another". And that before they found out that Odo was a mass murderer who, after doing what might count as "effective repenting", still strongly sided with those who provided him with the murder weapon and sent him to kill. I just can't see things reaching the point where the Link would actually listen.
Timo Saloniemi
