Yeah. You'd also write some scripts, build some sets, hire some more actors. Then you'd have a "show."
Which series would you want next?
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Because they're already sundowning the rest of the good stuff, but Matalas actually has a project he wants to do. He did well with PIC S3, so I want him to do more. Discovery pooped the bed, and S31 is already turning people off. Bury that stuff and move forward with a project from the guy who got the most buzzed-about Trek in recent memory.
I will say, 12 Monkeys puts to bed the idea that he is only capable of writing nostalgia. It has little in common with the 12 Monkeys film he (and myself) love so much, hence why I just couldn't get into it.
Yeah. It was his own thing when he started writing it, and the studio mandated that he bolt on the 12 Monkeys "franchise."
That explains a lot. It's like when everything had to be a Cloverfield film for some reason.
Ugh. And Cloverfield wasn't even good. It was the "fetch" of sci-fi franchises.
If you can get past the superficial trappings tying it to the film (and to "La Jetee") 12 Monkeys gets so very good. They do that thing where sci-fi shows (think "Fringe") get more and more up their own butts about their mythology. But JUST when it feels like they've gone ahead and completely forgotten where they started from, they pull it back in.
Impossible. The fanbase can not be created by something which never existed.
No. "Romanticizing the past" simply means you are placing the previous productions on a pedestal in comparison to the newer stuff.
Tomorrow is Yesterday and Space Seed say it's the 22nd century. The Squire of Gothos says it's the 28th century. And that's just off the top of my head. If you want to go into un-filmed material, Harlan Ellison's original draft of The City on the Edge of Forever would have placed TOS in the 25th century, and indeed when IDW adapted Ellison's version into a comic series, they stuck with the 25th century date on the grounds that had it been filmed in the 60s, that's what they would have done, citing all the times TOS gave a contradictory century as an example.
Sounds more like "it's from a show I like, so it's okay." Besides, in the case of Data's graduation date, it's an example of how TNG's S1 finale The Neutral Zone completely ignored the entire preceding season. It's that episode that established the current year is 2364 despite Data saying in Farpoint he graduated in 2378, and that episode also says there's been no contact with the Federation and the Romulans in over sixty years, despite it stated that there was a battle occurring between Starfleet and Romulan ships simultaneous to the events of Angel One. I guess, that's a "small mistake" too?
Thing is though, in the period of 2001-2005 everyone was crying that Enterprise was the one making the "huge inconsistencies" each week that the previous shows didn't make, yet now people like you are holding it up as an example of continuity done right. And before that, let me tell you there was rage in the Voyager forum over how the backstory about Seven of Nine's parents as established in Dark Frontier "made a mess of continuity and canon" in regards to when the Federation made contact with the Borg. All this has happened before, and it will happen again. Like I said, in twenty years, the Kurtzman era will be remembered as "continuity done right" as the current productions will be the ones "making a mess of everything."
Yeah, no. I've been here since 2001, there's never been any rules against profanity. Indeed, the common response to people like you who claim there used to be or there should be is if the forums Admin staff actually cared, they could activate the software's profanity filter which would render all swear words into a series of asterixis. Since they clearly have not done that, they clearly don't care.
And I really don't see how someone who has only been here since 2014 thinks they can say "back in the day" about a forum to someone who has been here since 2001. That's an interesting lapse on continuity on your own behalf.
Akiva Goldsman?
So, those who are working on SNW and Section 31 who are passionate about their projects should be ignored?
S31 is one and done. The trailer is pretty terrible. I know that a trailer isn't necessarily "everything," but since it's supposed to be putting your best foot forward, there's very little hope for it.
I like SNW. But with the buyout coming I doubt it'll survive.
Why? If it’s Skydance, who has a long history with Kurtzman and Star Trek, I don’t see them shuttering what’s already in place.
We can fucking say fuck whenever the fuck we want, just don't call someone a motherfucker.
Accusing somebody of "fucking the chicken" might be actionable if it were literal; it's a figure of speech. Needlessly crude IMO, but not actionable.
Accusing somebody of "fucking the chicken" might be actionable if it were literal; it's a figure of speech. Needlessly crude IMO, but not actionable.
It definitely seems like "My own personal ideal Star Trek series idea," is going to hold onto its narrow lead, with Legacy the clear winner from the other possibilities. Possibly because it has so many possibilities.
Maybe the next poll should be "What would Star Trek Legacy even be?"
Maybe the next poll should be "What would Star Trek Legacy even be?"
That's a reasonable question.
I feel like people are wrapped up in their own ideas and imaginings of it rather than what Matalas has said on it.
Trailers are terrible things, and rarely put "best foot forward." They are not usually made in house but by other companies with given material to promote a product. So, I don't take trailers as anything but conversation starters.
And the buyout still has a year of federal review. I'll continue to enjoy it and hope that team gets more Trek opportunities.
Rachel Garrett and Seven of Nine take their Enterprises back in time to defeat the Romulans and create the Federation and also the Stargazer is involved somehow.
I've seen a few people saying they should jump forward 100 years and it has me wondering why. What would be the purpose of that? They've already done a time skip to the 25th century in Picard and a time jump to the 32nd century for Discovery, so what's the need of another one? Do people just really want to see what 26th century LCARS looks like?
Or is it just that people want all the existing legacy and Disco characters to go away?
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That’s some Matalas level thinking.
I think maybe the 100 year time jump is being suggested because it worked so well as a clean slate for TNG moving forward from TOS?
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