Contest: VOTE Which Series is your favourite?
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Well, first I want to honestly ask something, how it is possible that some people don't like TOS but called their selves as Trek-fan, Trekkie, whatsoever? Please do not get me wrong, I will offend no one, but I cannot get the concept. It is for me saying like "I am US patriot, but I cannot stand Founding Fathers, they are soo outdated". Is there someone who is willing to clarify?
I do not have a chance to not being Trek people. TOS was always present at our home, part of our lives; if not watched, is quoted (mostly) by mother. I remember that I cried when I realized that nasty girl took Spock's brain.
So for me TOS and TOS movies (even TMP) are out of competition. What I like from TOS as a child: everything, but most important to believing a bright future, having hope, never giving up. I am not saying "these are all my character attributes, while I learnt them from TOS", but sure TOS has great impact on me from various reasons.
So, for me after TOS, ENT symbolizes me "believing a bright future, having hope, never giving up" then comes TNG as second. TNG is second, while they are tooo idealized, so I cannot identify myself with the crew, the leading women are so weak without reason and of course betrayal of Federation to Maquis!
For me DS9 is a very good show but not good Trek show. DS9 hat nothing about a bright future, but about darkness, about religious fanaticism and rule of jungle. I do not like Sisko figure, he is for me kind of Reagan/Bush Jr like war lord and overacting of Avery Brooks is really annoying. How can be Kira accepted as freedom fighter when she calls herself as terrorist? Odo's constantly recurring Cardassian collaboration etc, so for me most of the main characters are never trustworthy. So, rather B5! Nevertheless, I can understand my German Trekkie sisters and brothers who are real fans of DS9, it is tempting to belonging victorious alliance at a great war, even it is fictional.
VOY is not my case. As an engineer, this self repairing magic ship bring me to identity crises. Under a psychopath like Janeway I would organize a mutiny. My all respect to 7 and Doctor is not enough to motivate me rewatch the show. I liked the He-Man as I was teenager very much, but I do not know why watching TAS is so boring.
DSC, STD, DISCO what you ever call the show, I did not watch, while I boycott the CBS, since I do not like the way they handle with ST and ST fans. And I do not need another dark show as Trek. I rather spare my time for Orville or if it has to be dark sci-fi then The Expanse.
I do not have a chance to not being Trek people. TOS was always present at our home, part of our lives; if not watched, is quoted (mostly) by mother. I remember that I cried when I realized that nasty girl took Spock's brain.
So for me TOS and TOS movies (even TMP) are out of competition. What I like from TOS as a child: everything, but most important to believing a bright future, having hope, never giving up. I am not saying "these are all my character attributes, while I learnt them from TOS", but sure TOS has great impact on me from various reasons.So, for me after TOS, ENT symbolizes me "believing a bright future, having hope, never giving up" then comes TNG as second. TNG is second, while they are tooo idealized, so I cannot identify myself with the crew, the leading women are so weak without reason and of course betrayal of Federation to Maquis!
For me DS9 is a very good show but not good Trek show. DS9 hat nothing about a bright future, but about darkness, about religious fanaticism and rule of jungle. I do not like Sisko figure, he is for me kind of Reagan/Bush Jr like war lord and overacting of Avery Brooks is really annoying. How can be Kira accepted as freedom fighter when she calls herself as terrorist? Odo's constantly recurring Cardassian collaboration etc, so for me most of the main characters are never trustworthy. So, rather B5! Nevertheless, I can understand my German Trekkie sisters and brothers who are real fans of DS9, it is tempting to belonging victorious alliance at a great war, even it is fictional.
VOY is not my case. As an engineer, this self repairing magic ship bring me to identity crises. Under a psychopath like Janeway I would organize a mutiny. My all respect to 7 and Doctor is not enough to motivate me rewatch the show. I liked the He-Man as I was teenager very much, but I do not know why watching TAS is so boring.
DSC, STD, DISCO what you ever call the show, I did not watch, while I boycott the CBS, since I do not like the way they handle with ST and ST fans. And I do not need another dark show as Trek. I rather spare my time for Orville or if it has to be dark sci-fi then The Expanse.
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My "Top 3":
Discovery
Deep Space Nine
Voyager
Discovery
Deep Space Nine
Voyager
Top 3.....
1.Star Trek.
2.The next gen.
3.Voyager.
1.Star Trek.
2.The next gen.
3.Voyager.
^ Stop calling Discovery "STD"; it's not only inaccurate, it's disrespectful.
The official abbreviation is DIS, with an "acceptable alternative" being DSC.
The official abbreviation is DIS, with an "acceptable alternative" being DSC.
Actually, as an acronym it's perfectly accurate. The show's official title is Star Trek: Discovery, is ir not? Think it's disrespectful? Complain to the geniuses that named it.
TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, STD, STTMP, STTWOK, STTSFS, ST09, STID........i feel like i am looking at a ST periodic table chart at this point. lol
The problem with "STD" is that it doesn't follow the convention established by the abbreviations of the other shows, which pointedly did NOT place "ST" in front. We have VOY, not STV; ENT, not STE.
Well, first I want to honestly ask something, how it is possible that some people don't like TOS but called their selves as Trek-fan, Trekkie, whatsoever? Please do not get me wrong, I will offend no one, but I cannot get the concept. It is for me saying like "I am US patriot, but I cannot stand Founding Fathers, they are soo outdated". Is there someone who is willing to clarify?
I do not have a chance to not being Trek people. TOS was always present at our home, part of our lives; if not watched, is quoted (mostly) by mother. I remember that I cried when I realized that nasty girl took Spock's brain.
Yeah, buddy...!
Nope, buddy...!
@Vger23 thank you for reading and commenting.
Please be kind and tell me what didn't you like?
Nope, buddy...!
Please be kind and tell me what didn't you like?
I actually think DSC gets a bad rap. I'm a huge TOS fan, and have been since the 70's. I like all Star Trek to varying degrees...but DSC has really surprised me, and I think it has some great characters (which is the most important thing to me with Trek), cool story lines (despite some unevenness), and a lot of fun. It wasn't as dark as people make it out to be. There were "heavy themes" but it was always about hope and redemption in Season1, which I think are very Trek-like themes.
You got that backwards. Per the official word of CBS, Discovery's abbreviation is DSC.
Because people have different opinions on what they like?
Trekkie/trekker or whatever you identify as is just someone who likes part of the franchise. It doesn't have a requirement, other than being a fan of something in it.
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Well, as I said before I didn't watch the show, so I cannot say, if the show is dark or not. Nevertheless, it is the meaning of my Trekkie people, whose not always agree with me about ST aspects, but I believe in their objectivity. Some of them really like Discovery, but they also say crew is not classical crew that we know who have at least respect each other or any kind of identifiable. If I am honest, I could borrow Blurays and watch the show (so I shouldn't pay the money for CBS), but as I heard despite what they say at the beginning about Enterprise and Spock they will have them at the second season, I gave up the idea. And I am not sure, if I buy overcaring Sarek for unknown adopted sister of Spock.
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No, I am not saying what people should like or not, read please again, what I am talking about. I am kindly asking, how can you do not like the base, which establish the Trek universe and it's cosmos and rules and you say again I like the others which are built on exactly this universe with their rules. It is paradox. Without TOS the other shows/films/characters would not even exist.
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