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Which productions just "stick the landing" with you?

All the great sets and VFX can't make up for bad acting, casting or writing. Any those take me right out of it.

Agreed.

Fan films are great for what they are: fans who love Star Trek making films about it.
 
And the winner is!!!! Sorry, I'm having a hard time opening the envelope. There we go. Okay, the winner is!!

Best overall fan film: Star Trek Continues

Best Production: Star Trek Continues

Best ensemble cast: Star Trek Continues

Best actor with a Scottish accent: Chris Doohan

Best Kirk: Vic Mignonga

Now the worst!!

Worst fan effort: Renegades
 
And the winner is!!!! Sorry, I'm having a hard time opening the envelope. There we go. Okay, the winner is!!

Best overall fan film: Star Trek Continues

Best Production: Star Trek Continues

Best ensemble cast: Star Trek Continues

Best actor with a Scottish accent: Chris Doohan

Best Kirk: Vic Mignonga

Now the worst!!

Worst fan effort: Renegades

We need the "Most Hugo Award Nominations" category.
 
And the winner is!!!! Sorry, I'm having a hard time opening the envelope. There we go. Okay, the winner is!!

Best overall fan film: Star Trek Continues

Best Production: Star Trek Continues

Best ensemble cast: Star Trek Continues

Best actor with a Scottish accent: Chris Doohan

Best Kirk: Vic Mignonga

Now the worst!!

Worst fan effort: Renegades

We need the "Most Hugo Award Nominations" category.

Modest much?
 
And the winner is!!!! Sorry, I'm having a hard time opening the envelope. There we go. Okay, the winner is!!

Best overall fan film: Star Trek Continues

Best Production: Star Trek Continues

Best ensemble cast: Star Trek Continues

Best actor with a Scottish accent: Chris Doohan

Best Kirk: Vic Mignonga

Now the worst!!

Worst fan effort: Renegades

We need the "Most Hugo Award Nominations" category.

Modest much?

Oh crap! You're right: my own production would probably win that category. Now I'm embarrassed for having mentioned it.
 
Re-watchability is always a huge factor in deciding whether something rings true for me, and these two really do it for me:

Star Trek New Voyages: "World Enough and Time" - This is my favorite TOS fanfilm episode in terms of writing, performance and story structure. I love getting a little more of Captain Sulu's Excelsior, which we never really got enough of in the official franchise, and George Takei in the role is always a pleasure. Christina Marie Moses is thoroughly charming as Alana Sulu - her charisma jumps off the screen and both she and Takei elevate the performances of the series regulars. I also always enjoy when Star Trek uses a Shakespearean theme well, and The Tempest happens to be my favorite Shakespeare play.

Prelude to Axanar - Obviously the production values and performances here are excellent and blur the lines between fan film and franchise, but what's most impressive to me is what a flat out great faux DOCUMENTARY it is, regardless of genre. Ken Burns is often copied and parodied, but Prelude could easily have been directed by Mr. Burns himself. Just excellently written, performed and edited - I could have watched the entire Axanar story done in this documentary style.
 
Prelude to Axanar - Obviously the production values and performances here are excellent and blur the lines between fan film and franchise, but what's most impressive to me is what a flat out great faux DOCUMENTARY it is, regardless of genre. Ken Burns is often copied and parodied, but Prelude could easily have been directed by Mr. Burns himself. Just excellently written, performed and edited - I could have watched the entire Axanar story done in this documentary style.

You've.... never seen a Ken Burns documentary, have you?
 
Prelude to Axanar - Obviously the production values and performances here are excellent and blur the lines between fan film and franchise, but what's most impressive to me is what a flat out great faux DOCUMENTARY it is, regardless of genre. Ken Burns is often copied and parodied, but Prelude could easily have been directed by Mr. Burns himself. Just excellently written, performed and edited - I could have watched the entire Axanar story done in this documentary style.

You've.... never seen a Ken Burns documentary, have you?
You don't see any influence from Ken Burns' Civil War series on Prelude to Axanar? The transitions from the talking head interviews to narrative descriptions of the conflicts are really similar.

I mean, even the intro to Prelude to Axanar is styled after a PBS documentary intro.
 
It would need a bunch of still black and white photos to be more like a Ken Burns documentary. ;)

Kor
 
I mean, even the intro to Prelude to Axanar is styled after a PBS documentary intro.

Yeah, I'm not sure about Ken Burns per se (been a while but I feel like he's way heavier on the narration stuff) but there's definitely a lot of History channel war documentaries it reminds me of.
 
Prelude to Axanar - Obviously the production values and performances here are excellent and blur the lines between fan film and franchise, but what's most impressive to me is what a flat out great faux DOCUMENTARY it is, regardless of genre. Ken Burns is often copied and parodied, but Prelude could easily have been directed by Mr. Burns himself. Just excellently written, performed and edited - I could have watched the entire Axanar story done in this documentary style.

You've.... never seen a Ken Burns documentary, have you?
You don't see any influence from Ken Burns' Civil War series on Prelude to Axanar? The transitions from the talking head interviews to narrative descriptions of the conflicts are really similar.

I mean, even the intro to Prelude to Axanar is styled after a PBS documentary intro.

It would need a bunch of still black and white photos to be more like a Ken Burns documentary. ;)

Kor

I mean, even the intro to Prelude to Axanar is styled after a PBS documentary intro.

Yeah, I'm not sure about Ken Burns per se (been a while but I feel like he's way heavier on the narration stuff) but there's definitely a lot of History channel war documentaries it reminds me of.

This fan work nails the Ken Burns-style documentary than Axanar:

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGQ1tJP_26A[/yt]

And this:

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk9pP9-_1NA[/yt]
 
Prelude to Axanar works for me on the level of a 1990's A&E documentary on WWII from the days when I called it the "Arts and Explosions Network."

Beyond that, there's no one production that really outdoes all the others in every way. Continues has the look down, but their best stories still aren't as compelling to me as the best of PII/NV.

Intrepid is very good because they focus on story.

I would never call Renegades the worst, I've seen a lot of much worse fan films, but I would say that I expected more from it than I got.
 
For me, fan films in general don't really "stick the landing", and I think I finally figured out why. The fan films are trying to scratch an itch I don't personally have. There's nothing about me that has to see more of what I've seen before, but not done by those I know have done it well. If I want to watch something "in the spirit of TOS", I'll just watch TOS, as an example.

That said, I am interested in Axanar and Renegades. I was disappointed when I found out Axanar would be a traditional narrative, because I enjoyed Prelude's documentary format. In my mind, it illustrated the traditional Trek storytelling format wasn't the only way to tell those stories. As for Renegades, while it's not very good, the premise has so much potential. We're so used to seeing things from the Starfleet perspective, it's interesting to see that idealism may not reflect reality.
 
Mindsifter felt perfect
Want of a nail, felt like it could of been an episode done on the cheap (hey we got these set and extras available until the Thursday after next)
then Eagle and Exeter feel right to me as well.

STC feels too TNGish for me

I like Aurora, and Potemkin, Intrepid and Reliant
 
I make fanfilms because I like playing in that sandbox. I don't give a flying **** if it's "real Trek" or not. There's no such thing anyway. Star Trek means a million different things to a million different people, so any claim that something is "real Trek" is just silly.

I just want to have fun and tell some (hopefully) interesting stories in that sandbox. That's really all my measly efforts are about.

Well said! That's our, (Starship Valiant) motivations exactly. We don't try to compete, we don't make any claims, we just have fun doing what we do and if others like it, well that's an added bonus. Personally, I appreciate all the fan series for their part in keeping the spirit of trek alive.
 
I make fanfilms because I like playing in that sandbox. I don't give a flying **** if it's "real Trek" or not. There's no such thing anyway. Star Trek means a million different things to a million different people, so any claim that something is "real Trek" is just silly.

I just want to have fun and tell some (hopefully) interesting stories in that sandbox. That's really all my measly efforts are about.

Well said! That's our, (Starship Valiant) motivations exactly. We don't try to compete, we don't make any claims, we just have fun doing what we do and if others like it, well that's an added bonus. Personally, I appreciate all the fan series for their part in keeping the spirit of trek alive.

Well said, both of Ya's!
My same goal when I get back into it. :)
 
I think the biggest problem I have with Potemkin is that the actor playing the Captain is always rubbing his hands together like a silent film villain. Does he have a skin condition?
 
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