I liked her best in the starfleet uniform. Worf's hair became better each season while I think Troi's looked better with the giant 80's hair. Also I kind of think Picard should have grown the Future Imperfect haircut towards the later seasons. He looked bad ass with that hair cut.
Which is your favorite love interest for Troi?
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Worf had children with her in an alternate reality. This is more than could be said of anybody else.
Will.
No contest. Plenty of nuanced on screen stuff, despite protests to the contrary, and Imzadi (the novel) is so close to canon that they based a chunk of the series finale on it. (its future segment is practically a prequel.)
Also....though he likes candles, worf wouldn't have put up with Deanna smoking. Riker would feel it adds ambience to his jazz.
One of the things that makes the relationship so real is the way that for a long time everyone but them already knows what they are to each other. Even Data probably figured it out before he has the emotion chip. Its a blessed relief when they finally settle down, but a damn shame that producer meddling meant nemesis never had its second part.
No contest. Plenty of nuanced on screen stuff, despite protests to the contrary, and Imzadi (the novel) is so close to canon that they based a chunk of the series finale on it. (its future segment is practically a prequel.)
Also....though he likes candles, worf wouldn't have put up with Deanna smoking. Riker would feel it adds ambience to his jazz.
One of the things that makes the relationship so real is the way that for a long time everyone but them already knows what they are to each other. Even Data probably figured it out before he has the emotion chip. Its a blessed relief when they finally settle down, but a damn shame that producer meddling meant nemesis never had its second part.
What was supposed to happen in the follow up to Nemesis? I've never heard about that.
For what it's worth, in Q Squared an alternate universe version of Riker and Troi married young and had a son Tommy. And in the Litverse they have a daughter Natasha.
Someone should have done a "Moriarty" on Minuet, so that Riker could have ended up with her.
Yes, its one of my favourite things sbout the novels. And Tash carries over into star trek online continuity as well apparently.
My understanding was that it was strongly hinted Nemesis was to be the first of a TNG two parter at the very least, with Marina Sirtis in particular hinting at this. And the 'a generations final journey begins' tagline. I don't know of any concrete plans, but find it unlikely that ending on a down note was intentional. Of course, the film died due to the unholy mess of star power and bad release scheduling etc.
I never understood all the hoopla over Minuet either. She didn't seem all that special or more real than any other hologram. If anything she seemed rather vapid and malleable, certainly nothing on the level of Moriarty and his wife.
I'd participate in a Riker poll if anyone wanted to do one, but I don't feel there are enough serious love interests to really rival Troi. Minuet, Ro, Soran...those three come to mind as being his most memorable relationships, but Ro was just a sex thing and Soran while serious seemed out of character for Riker.
I don't play STO I tried and couldn't get the hang of piloting the ship, and apparently the game is primarily piloting. I had heard that Natasha was in the STO continuity and apparently marries Picard and Beverly's son Rene and has three children. It's a bit odd to think that Picard, Beverly, Troi and Riker share three grandchildren together. But nice. I do have the one novel that was in STO continuity, but it's still way down in my to read stacks.
It's very embarassing, as a Riker fan, to know that he had (knowingly) fallen for a trick of light. A mechanism. If you can get past her big hair, Minuet looks like a fine piece of crackling, which is great if that's all he's using her for, but Riker dares call his affection for her ... a deeper feeling! Much like when Kirk beat up Leonardo da Vinci, because he was in love with Leo's android, after knowing her for barely half an hour. So much so, that Spock had to perform a mind meld on Kirk to get him over her! This conceit in STAR TREK that Men fall in love so easily in the future over anything that looks remotely like a Human female is absurd! But ... there it is!
Eh the women in Star Trek fall in "love" rather easily as well. Troi is all over Wyatt, Riva, Devinoni Ral, Beverly with Odan.
Star Trek characters tend to fall in "love" at the drop of a hat, no matter their sex. Makes you wonder if some of the writers ever had a relationship...
With Minuet...yeah I don't get it either, just like with Kirk and Edith Keeler who supposedly had a special place among his "love interests of the week".
Obviously I'm the wrong person to ask wether she was "hot" but I actually didn't find her very attractive, and the whole "barfly" persona she had was fairly offputting to me.
Then again she was an electronic fantasy tailored to seduce Riker. If the Binarians had tried to preoccupy me with a holoprogram it would have likely taken place on some romantic beach or a desert night...and Minuet would have been a guy.
Star Trek characters tend to fall in "love" at the drop of a hat, no matter their sex. Makes you wonder if some of the writers ever had a relationship...
With Minuet...yeah I don't get it either, just like with Kirk and Edith Keeler who supposedly had a special place among his "love interests of the week".
Obviously I'm the wrong person to ask wether she was "hot" but I actually didn't find her very attractive, and the whole "barfly" persona she had was fairly offputting to me.
Then again she was an electronic fantasy tailored to seduce Riker. If the Binarians had tried to preoccupy me with a holoprogram it would have likely taken place on some romantic beach or a desert night...and Minuet would have been a guy.
Minuet was much more striking when the episode originally aired...they hadn't done the self-aware hologram schtick to death yet.
Isn't the obvious answer chocolate?
This is so true. I think a lot of episodes play(ed) differently the first time around. The first time around we bought what the writers were telling us because we hadn't seen it a dozen times before with other holodeck characters and then in re-runs.
All female characters rock the Starfleet uniform. Troi, Kira, Seven, T'Pol all look great when wearing the uniforms of their time.
Until such time as the PTB are willing to have a male character rocking the skin-tight, body paint-esque catsuit then no woman should have to wear another one.
Put a Man in a catsuit and he goes all butch ... unable to relax, or act naturally. STAR TREK did come close with what you're suggesting - perhaps, too close - with The Motion Picture uniforms that could hide no sins, regardless of sex, race or creed. The Original Series tried it, from time to time, as demonstrated with the outfits worn by the guest stars in Let That Be Your Last Battlefield, for example. And Leonardo da Vinci - AKA Mister Flint - wore tight leggings that revealed all. Indeed, the proof presents itself that only The Fairer Sex can pull off wearing catsuits - especially when provided by Robert "Bob" Blackman and his vulgar fashion design sensibilities.
Nog looked comfortable in his, but he did not rock the look.
I did watch it first time round. I still didn't get it.
And its not an anti artificial kind of thing either. I liked Lal rather a lot as I recall. XD
With me it was also no kind of backlash against artificial characters, I actually never thought Minuet was sentient/sapient, just that her behavioral matrix was very complex so that she seemed far more real than the programs Federation holodecks could cook up (that was after all back when they still portrayed the holograms akin to NPCs in a computer game)
I didn't care for Minuet because she was a painted floozy who, under those six inches of makeup she wore, probably had the skin of a woman in her 50s.
I didn't care for Minuet because she was a painted floozy who, under those six inches of makeup she wore, probably had the skin of a woman in her 50s.
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