Where was Carol Marcus

[Jedi_Master]

Maybe she had one quarter vulcan triplets. It might explain Spock's awkward relationship with Uhura over his decision to perpetuate his species...

"Hey baby, wanna go back to my place and save an ancient civilization from extinction?"

 

[Dales]

Maybe she had one quarter vulcan triplets. It might explain Spock's awkward relationship with Uhura over his decision to perpetuate his species...

the thought of spock cheating is grossing me out. but I do wonder what a 1/4 vulcan will look like physically. I don't think we have ever seen them in trek.

 

[stardream]

the thought of spock cheating is grossing me out. but I do wonder what a 1/4 vulcan will look like physically. I don't think we have ever seen them in trek.

Didn't we see someone whose grandfather was a Romulan? The Drumhead perhaps????

 

[Jedi_Master]

the thought of spock cheating is grossing me out. but I do wonder what a 1/4 vulcan will look like physically. I don't think we have ever seen them in trek.

Pointy ears, normal eyebrows, can mind meld but only to share favorite recipes.

 

[The Wormhole]

Didn't we see someone whose grandfather was a Romulan? The Drumhead perhaps????

Yes, Simon Tarses.

 

[mattman8907]

Actually, after thinking things over, Carol being on maternity leave (which I initially just meant as a bit of a joke) really does work perfectly, and could help explain Kirk's funk at the start of the movie. So he's in a mood, his birthday is coming, and with this one he's turning a year older than his dad got. Add in the fact that he's now a dad himself (or going to be one) and that, like his own father before him he won't be around for his own child's life could certainly explain his misery and desire for a ground assignment. I suppose you can still have this with Chapel, but IMO it works better if it's something more recent, to fit with the five year mission losing its appeal. And it even ties into Kirk's observation in his log about romances developing and failing among the crew, a matter he could relate to.

Hmm, maybe this was why Carol wasn't even mentioned in the movie, the subject very easily leads to distracting side stories which have no real relevance to the movie's plot.

I like this theory. I like it alot.

 

[Dales]

Pointy ears, normal eyebrows, can mind meld but only to share favorite recipes.

I would think they will look more human than vulcan. maybe they will have pointy ears but their eye brows will look human and they will not come off so stoic and angst.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Sexism has both objective and subjective elements but that's a whole other debate. Chapel and Rand were reduced to little more than cameos in the TOS movies

To be fair, Chapel's non-appearance in ST II was at her own request. (Her medical scrubs were upgraded to match the new uniform look - altered collar, metal badge - and worn by an extra.) Our fan club even received a letter, at the time, from Gene & Majel explaining that she was not returning as Chapel because Gene had been shunted aside to only Creative Consultant.

Rand's cameo in ST III was at Director Nimoy's suggestion, filmed after principal photography was completed. She was not approached to appear in ST II, but Grace was in a very dark place between TMP and ST II. (She attended a screening of ST II in Brisbane, Australia, a few weeks after the US premiere, and was appreciative that Vonda McIntyre had found some things for Rand to do the the novelization.)

Chapel and Rand have lines in ST IV, again at Director Nimoy's suggestion.

 

[Pauln6]

To be fair, Chapel's non-appearance in ST II was at her own request. (Her medical scrubs were upgraded to match the new uniform look - altered collar, metal badge - and worn by an extra.) Our fan club even received a letter, at the time, from Gene & Majel explaining that she was not returning as Chapel because Gene had been shunted aside to only Creative Consultant.

Rand's cameo in ST III was at Director Nimoy's suggestion, filmed after principal photography was completed. She was not approached to appear in ST II, but Grace was in a very dark place between TMP and ST II. (She attended a screening of ST II in Brisbane, Australia, a few weeks after the US premiere, and was appreciative that Vonda McIntyre had found some things for Rand to do the the novelization.)

Chapel and Rand have lines in ST IV, again at Director Nimoy's suggestion.

Yes and I think Carol appears in the novelisations of STIII and STIV in a single scene each. There are greater limitations on what can be shown in the movies. Saavik is the barest thumbnail sketch on screen compared to the novels.

Rand appeared in STVI following a fan vote. It's a shame that Rand wasn't a presence on the bridge in TMP. I think Wise just viewed her character solely by virtue of her unappealing relationship to Kirk rather than an experienced crewman. I recall that there was some talk of Chapel being Morrow's assistant in STIII and some of her scenes were cut from STIV. Similarly, Christian Slater and Uhura nicked some of Rand's lines in STVI. Even so, her cameo in STIII is better than her appearance in STIV because it conveyed more over character even without lines.

I'd love it if the characters got cameos that conveyed something of their essence but that goes equally for characters like Riley, Kyle, Leslie, Mulhall, Palamis, Noel, Mcgivers, Decker, Ilia etc. I'm not overly hopeful, but I'd love it :-)

 

[Therin of Andor]

Yes and I think Carol appears in the novelisations of STIII and STIV in a single scene each.

IIRC, Carol has plenty to do in the novelizations. She visits with the parents of her deceased colleagues March and Madison (one of whom was her partner, I vaguely recall) in ST III. And Carol finds the family of deceased Jedda and Zinaida in the ST IV novelization, which is where we meet a Deltan male with long, rose-coloured hair.

 

[mattman8907]

Finally we're getting answers from the Horse's mouth.

Simon Pegg explains why Alice Eve wasn't in Star Trek Beyond

 

[Seven of Five]

She'll reappear in the next film with a baby, and we'll get Kelvin-Saavik to boot.

In the Kelvin universe Kirstie Alley decides to stay with the franchise.

 

[Shadowknight1]

For whatever it's worth, Carol disappears from the IDW tie-in comics somewhere in early-mid 2261 (judging from the stardates) - right around the time Prime Universe Carol got pregnant.

I like the idea that maybe Carol figured out that Kirk wasn't exactly willing to commit, figured out she was pregnant and decided to leave the Enterprise without telling Kirk. Went into civilian research so she could stay in one place without being subject to orders.

 

[The Wormhole]

I like the idea that maybe Carol figured out that Kirk wasn't exactly willing to commit, figured out she was pregnant and decided to leave the Enterprise without telling Kirk. Went into civilian research so she could stay in one place without being subject to orders.

You can't leave a Starship you're an officer on without informing the Captain. Or do you mean she didn't tell him she was pregnant?

 

[Nightowl1701]

^ Unless she specifically invoked doctor/patient confidentiality, there was no way McCoy wasn't going to tell Kirk - if only after Carol was already off the ship.

 

[stardream]

Perhaps McCoy is the father in this timeline....

 

[Ben]

^ Unless she specifically invoked doctor/patient confidentiality, there was no way McCoy wasn't going to tell Kirk - if only after Carol was already off the ship.

That would be illegal under current US law. Do you think the Federation would have more lax medical privacy laws?

 

[CorporalCaptain]

McCoy wouldn't tell.

 

[flandry84]

Maybe she was home nursing the cold she caught....stripping off in a drafty shuttle.

 

[urbandefault]

Carol was killed in the swarm attack. Or not. Maybe she was on leave, or resigned from Starfleet prior to this mission.

Really, what diffference does it make? She was a "babe of the week" by TOS standards; a Victoria's Secret model with a Ph.D., irrelevant to future storylines in the K-verse.

But I'd be willing to bet Kirk kept a "souvenir" or two, the dog.