When/If Trek Lit reaches 2387
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You don't want to explore the aftermath of Romulus' destruction? You want a universe where the status quo continues forever and ever?
Can't happen. The start of Trek XI is in the prime timeline and tie-ins are required by license to, er, tie-in with onscreen canon.
Define "status quo". The authors have done a fine job keeping the prime universe interesting, including developments with the Romulans and Remans.
Well, gee--the destruction of Vulcan didn't mean the destruction of the Vulcan race. Similarly--just because Romulus blows up, that doesn't mean the end of the Romulans--or, heck, even the Romulan Empire!
I want to see how the Khitomer alliance and Typhoon Pact deal with the massive devestation. It just was not Romulus and Remus that got destroyed.
Well, we really don't know the astrometrics of the Romulan Star Empire's interior. It is possible that Romulus and Remus were the only inhabited planets destroyed by the Hobus supernova.
Although the novels have done an awful lot to shake things up and keep things interesting, they've never totally destroyed a major Trek world and likely wouldn't be allowed to.
Well, Destiny destroyed quite a few minor worlds and devastated some major ones. And Paths of Disharmony made a profound change in the status of a major world.
It's certainly true that there have been limits to what Pocket has been allowed to do in its ST novels, though they've still been given extraordinary latitude to do things like bring Bajor into the Federation, have Andor secede, destroy important "supporting worlds" like Deneva and Coridan, and kill important characters like Janeway.
On the other hand, now that the only ongoing ST series is set in an alternate timeline, maybe CBS will just decide to let Pocket do whatever it wants and cut them loose. Not like they need to worry about contradicting the canon anymore.
I've argued in the past that the Romulans are probably much more widely dispersed from their homeworld than the Vulcans are from theirs. While the civilization rooted on the Vulcanoid homeworld seems to have expanded rather modestly in the millennia since the sundering, the offshoot civilization that established itself in the Eisn system expanded massively to found a galactic superpower. That, in the 22nd century, four civilizations--the Vulcans, the Andorians, the Tellarites, and the humans--had to unite to effectively oppose the Romulans may be indicative of Romulan strength.
The Romulan home system may be trashed. Quite probably a lot of other Romulan colony worlds may also be destroyed--many of the earliest-settled ones, not necessarily the most important, are probably near Romulus and Remus. The focus of Romulan expansion, however, seems to have been away from Federation space and the Romulan home system. There are almost certainly very substantial Romulan civilian populations outside of Romulus and its home sector.
It's interesting to compare the list of Romulan and Klingon planets on Memory Alpha and Memory Beta. We've heard of a LOT fewer Romulan worlds than Klingon ones.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Klingon_planets
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Romulan_planets
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Romulan_Star_Empire
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Klingon_Empire
Romulans may simply conquer the planets in their space and make the inhabitants work for them. Perhaps Romulans don't want to get their hands dirty, as it were. They may also not want to let too many of their own citizens off planet for fear that they could turn against the Empire. As paranoid and security conscious as they seem to be, they may simply prefer keeping the majority of their people where the Tal Shiar can keep a better eye on them. In Unification people simply sitting in a soup bar had to be wary of what they were talking about. The impression I got was that the Romulans have public surveillance that would make the Cardassians proud. Ever wonder just where the picture that let the Federation know that Spock was on Romulus came from?
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Klingon_planets
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Romulan_planets
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Romulan_Star_Empire
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Klingon_Empire
Romulans may simply conquer the planets in their space and make the inhabitants work for them. Perhaps Romulans don't want to get their hands dirty, as it were. They may also not want to let too many of their own citizens off planet for fear that they could turn against the Empire. As paranoid and security conscious as they seem to be, they may simply prefer keeping the majority of their people where the Tal Shiar can keep a better eye on them. In Unification people simply sitting in a soup bar had to be wary of what they were talking about. The impression I got was that the Romulans have public surveillance that would make the Cardassians proud. Ever wonder just where the picture that let the Federation know that Spock was on Romulus came from?
Hello... they destroyed Pluto.... Can't get more major than that...
Pluto isn't a 'real' planet so it don't count.
A lack of detailed information about worlds in the Romulan Star Empire in the television series does not mean that the Romulan Star Empire does not have multiple worlds, especially since the Romulans haven't featured as prominently in the series as other civilizations: the Cardassians dominated Deep Space 9, and the Klingons were the most prominent non-Federation society in TNG and also featured heavily. Romulans and the RSE featured less often in Star Trek plots than Klingons or Cardassians, ostensibly because of Romulan isolationism, hence they and their worlds were less mentioned. Taking this fallacy to the real world, one would do as well to say that because USA Today doesn't feature prominent news reports from correspondents in multiple African cities that the African continent doesn't have many cities or much of a population at all.
It's not plausible that the Romulans--apparently a peer of the Federation and the Klingon Empire--would have confined their population to Romulus. Looking to the Romulans' Earthly counterparts, aggressively expansionistic authoritarian and totalitarian societies like the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy and Imperial Japan all eagerly shifted populations around by the millions, even in the middle of great power wars, even members of the dominant ethnic groups. A basic element of the policies of these states involved spreading the dominant groups into new territories rightfully belonging to it. These states lasted for decades; the Romulan Star Empire has been starfaring for centuries, even millennia. Why would the RSE not have followed the suit of these imperial powers, especially with no one to stop it?
At any rate, a one-planet Romulan population isn't the sort of Romulan civilization portrayed in the novelverse. Terix II, Artaleirh, Achernar Prime, and Devoras have all been portrayed in the books as having very substantial Romulan populations, with the world of Glintara further being the homeworld of the current praetor. Romulan civilization--more specifically, the Romulan branch of the Vulcanoid species that dominates the RSE--is far from being limited to Romulus.
I just don't understand the argument - does anyone seriously think the Romulan Civilization was contained to Romolus and Remus??
I'm not saying that they have NO colonies. They may just have fewer that the others with most being military outposts or reserved for the higher-up of Romulan society to use as estates. Just thinking of ways that the different governments can be represented. The Federation colonize everything, mostly with mixed species. The Klingons houses might tend to colonize along (extended) family lines. Just playing with the fact that we've heard of fewer Romulan colonies and seeing what we can do with it.
In the FASA RPG the Romulans had fewer habitable planets than the other empires as well as scarcer resources. Just a thought. They're aliens. Not everything they do should be done the same way that humans/UFP would do it.
In the FASA RPG the Romulans had fewer habitable planets than the other empires as well as scarcer resources. Just a thought. They're aliens. Not everything they do should be done the same way that humans/UFP would do it.
Well I for one don't, but for the sake of arguing, I bet some people do.
Over react much? So you've never carried out a simple typo?
I personally think naming it after a brand of tea would have been more amusing.
It's not that it's a typo. It's that it's the same typo everybody has been making for what seems like centuries now.
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