...the last human alive? I can't remember when in the series it was mentioned. Last time I tried to catch a run of the first two or three seasons, I missed that part.
When did Dave Lister become... (spoilers?)
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It's been a very, very long time since I've seen any Red Dwarf episodes... But, wasn't this in the first episode? I thought he was suspended for quite a long time (millions of years? hundreds of millions?) and Holly deduced humanity was probably long gone.
In the first episode. They realise it after 3 million years he may be the last human left alive.
Despite encountering numerous humans along the way, including the entire Red Dwarf crew again.
Despite encountering numerous humans along the way, including the entire Red Dwarf crew again.
No, only through timetravel and alternate dimensional travel and even if you think of the resurrected crew, you might have to ask if clones are real people just because they've been programmed to act and respond like their genetic donors? Surely you couldn't claim that they were real until they broke their programming and started not acting like the crew.
I believe that Rimmer said somethinglike "you want to go back to earth? Look what three million years has done to the common house cat, do you truel- yadda yadda yadda, blah blah blah."
He's been the last human since the first episode.
I believe that Rimmer said somethinglike "you want to go back to earth? Look what three million years has done to the common house cat, do you truel- yadda yadda yadda, blah blah blah."
He's been the last human since the first episode.
They're dead Dave, everybody's dead, Dave.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyKF2qd0-iQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyKF2qd0-iQ
Yep, Lister is not only the last human alive (ignoring the 'ressurected crew' of season 7...whatever
) but according to the Red Dwarf universe he is more or less the last LIFE outside Red Dwarf.In the Red Dwarf universe they stated that life NEVER occurred anywhere else in the universe except on Earth. The creatures they sometimes encounter all originated on Earth, usually as genetic engineering experiments.
For most of Red Dwarf (again, more stupid exceptions as the show got old and tired) whenever they found a life form, it always was of Earth origin and usually died by the time the Red Dwarf avoided being killed by it.
No vessel ever went out as far as Red Dwarf, and as they turned around and headed back towards Earth, they kind of found echoes of humanity: the old space stations and pleasure planets that sometimes still had androids (or wax-droids), gelfs, etc, buzzing about. But it is more or less a dead universe, and Dave Lister is more or less all that's left.
^^Well, don't forget the Cat. He's alive.
He's a descendant of the cat Lister had brought aboard, so he's technically from Earth too.
Well, yeah, but Bacl said Lister was the only thing alive, not just the only being from Earth.
He did say more or less, but fair enough.
There's no reason to believe that the resurrected crew of the Red Dwarf are anything other than what they seem to be. Clones aren't like androids, or the Voyager EMH. They are biological, living human beings. They don't have any programming to break.
I remember that episode, Lister walking around, reminiscing about the crew, as he nibbles on them along the way
I couldn't remember anyone mentioning that the human race was only "probably" dead, I thought there was some sort of explicit mention in there someone. When I get the cash I might pick up some more of the series DVD sets.
Well Rimmer said even if they're not dead they've probably evolved past recognition. In the books humans had all left Earth, and used it as a giant landfill, until one day there was an accident and it was blown out of orbit, and was later found by Lister.
I remember that episode, Lister walking around, reminiscing about the crew, as he nibbles on them along the way
I couldn't remember anyone mentioning that the human race was only "probably" dead, I thought there was some sort of explicit mention in there someone. When I get the cash I might pick up some more of the series DVD sets.
I don't think there's ever been any explanation of what happened the Humans, but I guess it's pretty safe to say Lister is the only Homo sapiens sapiens around in Red Dwarf (at least until series 7 and 8).
i believe in the novels, they were living in colonies in the rest of the sol system, as evidenced by the Eurovision-esque televote for which planet became GarbageWorld.
beyond that...
beyond that...
Yeah, it's been a while since I read Last Human, but didn't the Argonoids kill all humans in Backwards?
I PM'd you because I didn't want to take the thread too far off track. but the short answer is yes they're repeating it loads. Got good ratings too...
I don't think either of them are, but I could be wrong...
I'll just slip in and confirm a) what was said about what happened to the humans in the Better Than Life book is correct, and b) Being Human was indeed pretty good and didn't make much sense sans pilot and it's repeated as early as half 10 tonight, not to mention being available on iplayer of course.
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