What's up with Netflix and CBS?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Unimatrix Q, Oct 18, 2019.

  1. Unimatrix Q

    Unimatrix Q Captain Captain

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    Can't understand that they still haven't released the Season 3 trailer!

    And why the fuck are things like trailers, which belong to advertising, geoblocked by CBS? While other trailers for movies and shows can be seen pretty much everywhere!
     
  2. TPezz

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    Same with the new Short Treks, Netflix still hasn’t got them up. It’s kinda like they want people to watch them illegally :wah::censored:
     
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  3. Therin of Andor

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    There are definitely not-geoblocked versions of the trailer. Try this one.
    https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a29376100/star-trek-discovery-season-3-first-look-trailer/

    Last season, Netflix International did not gain access to the first four "Short Treks" until 24 hours before the debut of DSC's first Season 2 episode. And we got all four at once. Not expecting to see the six new ones until Season Three starts.

    In Australia, "Picard" has sold to Amazon Prime", so the Picard-linked "Short Trek" might turn up there.
     
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  4. Unimatrix Q

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    I can't understand why both companies make such stupid and shortsighted decissions :censored:

    Geoblocking shows makes sense, but trailers?

    Where's the logic for something like this?

    And what's the reason for Netflix not showing trailers for their own stuff?

    And why wait so long with the release of the new short treks? It almost seems like they don't want people watching Trek :shrug:
     
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  5. Noname Given

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    Netflix WON'T release a trailer until the stream date for a given show's release is near. Not everyone is a hardcore fan, and if they put a Trailer up now, many will think - "Oh, okay, ST: D Season 3 is available to watch now/soon..." <--- Read a couple weeks. So, when it doesn't appear, people start to wonder what happened, etc. and they Netflix don't look good. ST: D Season 3 is probably still a good 5 - 6 months from being made available.

    Same with the Short Treks. Netflix only sees them as good promotional tools, so they save them for when the new Season is about to be available to ramp up interest.
     
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  6. eschaton

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    There's also the issue that this season of Short Treks isn't explicitly connected to Discovery like the first season.

    I mean we have three Discoprise shorts (which I guess you could kinda-sorta say are DIS related) one PIC one, and two animated shorts we know basically nothing about yet.
     
  7. donners22

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    I don’t think they even see them that highly, given they buried them in a submenu with absolutely no notice.

    Only a small fraction of viewers would find them on their own.

    Plus I doubt they have the rights to at least some of the ones for this season.
     
  8. NCC-73515

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    Is S3 still gonna be on Netflix? I thought everything's gonna move over to Amazon internationally...
     
  9. Blooded

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    No, Netflix have first release window rights to Discovery, and allegedly first option on any direct Discovery spin-off’s, which would presumably only cover Section 31 at this point.

    Channel 4 now own UK linear TV rights for Discovery, as of this past week. Show begins airing next year.

    Amazon Prime has international first window rights to Picard, as those rights were sold separately. I’m assuming they’ve paid a huge figure, as I can’t see why Netflix wouldn’t have wanted to get Picard on their service, too.

    No word on where Lower Decks will air, yet, but I’d assume either Netflix or Amazon Prime. I’d be surprised if a third distributor came in for that particular show.

    As for Netflix, the above statement [made by someone else] that Netflix don’t upload trailers until closer to the air date is not correct. They’ve done that with some of their own content, but they’ve usually put out a non-geo blocked version of the Discovery trailers very quickly after CBS have published them. Amazon Prime did the same with the recent Picard trailer.
     
  10. Tuskin38

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    Only Picard is going to be on Amazon
     
  11. Agony_Boothb

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    Pretty much Amazon outbid Netflix for the rights to Picard. My guess is that Amazon prime might have struck a deal not just for Picard but other CBS content as well.
     
  12. Noname Given

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    No. ST: D is on Netflix. Picard (the new show) is the show where Amazon outbid Netflix for the International streaming rights. Picard WON'T be on Netflix.
     
  13. John Clark

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    I think I only found them when looking for one of the actors. When I did a search for Star Trek, they didn't appear:(
     
  14. Therin of Andor

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    Fans were certainly spreading the word to look in "Trailers and More" for "Short Treks" last season. All four simply arrived, all at once, 24 hours before Season Two debuted.

    I encounter a lot of people who say they NEVER watch end credits, nor watch Bonus Features on their DVDs and Blu-Rays, so it is easy to understand how people managed to miss them.
     
  15. ScottJ85

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    The proliferation of competing streaming services is recreating the problem that Netflix solved in the first place.
     
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  16. John Clark

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    Oddly, on my netflix, the only way I can see that is if I go through any internet browser. (It doesn't seem to pop up either on the app or on the tivo which is the one I tend to use). Guess I'll have to remember that for future ones.
     
  17. Therin of Andor

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    I haven't had trouble seeing the links on my wall-mounted widescreen Sony 3D-capable TV, my Mac laptop nor my iPhone. I do have one friend whose TV, after the first few weeks of a season, was slow to show new episodes in the list even though his wife's laptop had them.
     
  18. drt

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    That was always going to be a short term solution, we shouldn't be surprised that the pigs have started walking around on two legs.
     
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  19. Krandor

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    Yeah the idea that for $20/month we could get the same or more content then what we got from cable was never going to make long term financial sense. You can argue cable was too expensive, but $20/month was never going to work financially long term either. Netflix is still losing about $1B/year at this point. There is a middle ground in there and where that is I don't know. At the same time having everything in the hands of one company can have detrimental effects for consumers and content creaters as well so everything on netflix was never something that was a good idea overall.

    I've always said we were going to go through a phase of lots of streaming services popping up which we are and then after that there will be a phase of consolidation and likely wind up for 3-4 major services and possibly some other niche services. How all that shakes out will be interesting to watch.
     
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  20. eschaton

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    The real problem IMHO with the streaming services is each of them is basically trying to recreate a "mini cable system." What I mean is that few of the viable ones are specializing, instead trying to be all things to all people. This is the same issue cable had, where if I wanted access to Syfy, I needed to pay a big monthly bill, most of which actually went to pay for ESPN which I would never in a million years turn on.

    In contrast, if you narrowcast with streaming - if you set out to be absolutely the best at sports, children's programming, SF/fantasy, or whatever - you have a built in customer base who will always pick you.