Its probably just me, but I totally just pictured them all hanging around a desert in robes or at a council, Star Wars prequel style. Lmao.
What's so great about Pike?
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Its probably just me, but I totally just pictured them all hanging around a desert in robes or at a council, Star Wars prequel style. Lmao.
Lorca could have been amazing, even after the reveal. Their loyalty should have been to the guy that they had just shared months with, not the Evil Emperor, just because she looks like Mommy. Lorca should have been kept very gray - a "good" Terran and a "grey area" Human might be occupy the same place on the moral scale. He should have tempted Burnham with "federation style reforms" and framed it so he was Saving the Empire. Their removal of Georgeou (by taking her to Prime Universe/S31) could have paved the way for Lorca to take over. They should have ended the episode with foreboding hints that he might not be what we think, like taking a Captains Woman, or revealing a Tantalus device - something to lead into TOS.
I think he's very charismatic and well-spoken. He communicates well with his bridge crew in a way never really seen from Trek captains before (Not even Picard, really.) It's a welcome surprise. I was expecting him to be more ... taciturn.
Yeah, I think that Mount is doing an excellent work as Pike till now. He has charisma, a thing that only Saru, Tilly and Staments from the regular discovery crew have demonstrated til now. At least to my eyes.
I think that a Pike series would work.
Till now, S2e04 is my favourite. e05 is good too. Both has that old spirit of the original series.
I think that a Pike series would work.
Till now, S2e04 is my favourite. e05 is good too. Both has that old spirit of the original series.
In time: I see problems between Leland and Pike ahead. I also see that Georgiou will be revealled to Pike.
Also appears to me that Section 31 and Admiral Cornwell has something to hide from the others... Maybe it will evolve into something that in the future will lead Pike to the "accident" (caused by section 31?
)we know from TOS? Looks to early to say for sure, but appears that Pike has concerns about section 31.
I think that in a Pike series, an arc like this could make an interesting approach for it´s future ending...
Also appears to me that Section 31 and Admiral Cornwell has something to hide from the others... Maybe it will evolve into something that in the future will lead Pike to the "accident" (caused by section 31?
)we know from TOS? Looks to early to say for sure, but appears that Pike has concerns about section 31.I think that in a Pike series, an arc like this could make an interesting approach for it´s future ending...
I like the contrast between Pike and Lorca as characters - creating this contrast takes some doing, given how both are physically pretty much the same thing, and it was a plot element when we found out Lorca wasn't merely your generic white-graying 40-50-something male of authoritative/-rian demeanor. But of course Lorca did most of the contrasting in the end, and Pike can be allowed to be fairly generic. He just does that in a rather affable manner.
I also want to see Pike gone at the end of the season, utterly regardless of how good he is as the series lead. Changing COs should be a DSC thing. Although where we'd get enough contrast for the third skipper remains to be seen. Saru with his newly found courage might not be different enough, say.
But Pike takes revelations well, as we saw with the secret of the spore drive. Which is a pity of sorts when the world doesn't quite shake.
Timo Saloniemi
I also want to see Pike gone at the end of the season, utterly regardless of how good he is as the series lead. Changing COs should be a DSC thing. Although where we'd get enough contrast for the third skipper remains to be seen. Saru with his newly found courage might not be different enough, say.
But Pike takes revelations well, as we saw with the secret of the spore drive. Which is a pity of sorts when the world doesn't quite shake.
Timo Saloniemi
This is also how I feel. Lorca actually interested me and I hated what happened to his character. He was more interesting as a type of captain we haven't seen before (except maybe for Jellico). But I guess what happened to him was better than him ending up working for Section 31.
Not certain what I would think, if S31 caused Pike's accident?
It's not that he's so spectacular as an individual character.
It's that; a team working to solve mysteries and overcome obstacles is a basic part of the kind of Star Trek storytelling that I like.
He facilitates that.
It's not something that either the main character or the captain did much of in the first season.
It's that; a team working to solve mysteries and overcome obstacles is a basic part of the kind of Star Trek storytelling that I like.
He facilitates that.
It's not something that either the main character or the captain did much of in the first season.
I would really hate that. I liked the original story, that the radiation leak was a tragic accident and that Pike saved a bunch of cadets at the cost of his life and health. If Section 31 arranged an accident like that to shut Pike up for some reason, that would be awful.
I think that if we are going to have revolving captains every season (and don't plan on Saru taking over the chair for S3) then they really do need to return to a female captain next year to keep things fresh. Perhaps a Vulcan or other alien species. Then again, TOS was pretty human centric when it came to their captains.
Pike is the captain Discovery needed to restore order and faith to the crew after Lorca, I totally agree. But the craziness of DISCO, the way it takes risks in its casting, story-telling, structure etc. is what makes it unique to me and I'm currently enjoying the journey the show taking us on. So I'm not sure I want Pike to continue on next season, especially since he has the Enterprise to return to.
I'm just wondering whether I'd enjoy all that much a more 'traditional' spin off (with Pike as the focus) which attempted to appeal to the fans who want to return to the old school Trek they are more comfortable with and fond of. Maybe I would. But, for now, I prefer the 'new and different' approach. I've never been a big fan of tradition or continuing the status quo, so I guess that's why the idea is less enticing to me.
Pike is the captain Discovery needed to restore order and faith to the crew after Lorca, I totally agree. But the craziness of DISCO, the way it takes risks in its casting, story-telling, structure etc. is what makes it unique to me and I'm currently enjoying the journey the show taking us on. So I'm not sure I want Pike to continue on next season, especially since he has the Enterprise to return to.
I'm just wondering whether I'd enjoy all that much a more 'traditional' spin off (with Pike as the focus) which attempted to appeal to the fans who want to return to the old school Trek they are more comfortable with and fond of. Maybe I would. But, for now, I prefer the 'new and different' approach. I've never been a big fan of tradition or continuing the status quo, so I guess that's why the idea is less enticing to me.
He's fun. Also, he's gorgeous. But that's just me being shallow.
Too soon for that.
An interesting story could be told if Saru were the acting Captain for an entire season for whatever reason and the crew grows to respect him as captain and then Starfleet pulls a Jellico on the Discovery crew and brings in a replacement who rubs against the grain a little bit. It would be a chance to do long-form what TNG tried to do in "Chain of Command", but couldn't deeply explore due to the status quo needing to be maintained.
I think that with Discovery, Picard and Section 31 exploring the uncharted corners of Star Trek story-telling, a good old fashioned exploratory mission with planet-of-the-week adventures could be a refreshing return to form, dependent upon execution. Granted, my reasons for liking DS9 and Discovery is that they aren't traditional Trek. However, that comes from the other three spin-offs being too similar in concept. Other than things like the quadrant or century that the show is set in, there isn't much that sets the concepts of TNG, VOY and early ENT apart from each other. However, if this theoretical traditional Trek Pike show were running along with DSC, Picard and Section 31, it wouldn't be a case of more of the same, would it? It would stand out because it was a return to format, rather than running the format into the ground.
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Wasn't there a Captain waiting on Vulcan to be picked up and assume command?
yes, but that's the season 3 Captain. I bet 100 bars of latinum it is either Decker, Enwright, Travers or Stone
Captain T'Pol, perhaps
Makes you wonder what the mysterious new captain has been up to since Pike commandeered Discovery. Are they sitting around meditating? Reassigned?Similar threads
