What's in YOUR 'head canon'?

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  1. Forbin

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    One particularly famous one was Laurence Olivier's Hamlet - Eileen Herlie, the actress who played Gertrude, his mother, was 9 years younger than him. And they had an affair during production.[/quote]
     
  2. Mr. Laser Beam

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    And of course Laurence Harvey and Angela Lansbury in The Manchurian Candidate. She wasn't that much older than he was.
     
  3. Nyotarules

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    At least Prime Uhura got her Vulcan eventually....
     
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    Was this just a case of famous leading man fighting against time? There is no way Olivier looked like a young man in his late teens/early 20's in that movie. He was 41 and looked at least late 30's
     
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  5. Idran

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    That wasn't the writing team as a whole, that was just Braga. He wanted it to be a huge thing, and the other writers tossed around the idea early in the process while they were still breaking the story, but he was the only one that kept pushing for it after the very early drafts. And while Paramount was against it, true, so was Berman. And it was Berman who nixed the idea, not the studio.

    (Though even what Braga wanted isn't entirely clear. Menosky said that Braga wanted it to last over the entire season, but Braga himself said he wanted a four-parter instead of a two-parter.)
     
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  6. Laura Cynthia Chambers

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    Now that season-long story arcs are a big (maybe overdone?) thing these days, his wish might have been granted if the show was made now.
     
  7. Mr. Laser Beam

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    ^ That's pretty much what nuBSG was. "Year of Hell" as an entire series.
     
  8. Idran

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    Enterprise S3 in some ways too. Not as much as Year of Hell or nuBSG, but somewhat.
     
  9. Kor

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    Wait, I haven't seen YOH in a while. Wasn't the ending a reset button?
    I would hate to have a whole season's worth of stories wiped out like that.

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  10. Idran

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    That was also something they went back and forth on. Menosky mentioned they had a half-dozen different endings they'd played with over the course of writing even for the two-part version. He also mentioned reshot endings, so some of them must've survived all the way up to filming.

    Edit: Oh, of course. Re-reading the interview excerpt, the reset button ending was Berman's idea, because of course it was. He suggested it as the simplest solution, so if they'd gone with the longer arc it almost definitely wouldn't have ended that way I'd bet. From Cinefantastique via Memory Alpha:

     
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  11. Albertese

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    My Star Wars Head Canon solution to that is that Leia was intrinsically more force sensitive than Luke when born. She had a psychic connection to her mother through the Force that Luke lacked and that's why she could remember Padme even though she was dead hours after Luke and Leia were born. This also explains why the twins were "hid" in the manner they were. Yoda knew that Leia was the better bet so he let her be raised by the Organas under the assumed name, while he set Luke up as bait by sending him to Anakin's home to live with Anakin's relations under his own name. He figured that Anakin knew Padme was pregnant and probably would assume that the baby died with her. But if he suspected the baby could have been born, then Luke would be there, ready to be killed or turned and the more powerful Leia would be there waiting to be trained. Ben Kenobi was stationed on Tatooine, nearby Luke, in order to keep an eye open in case Vader showed up to get him, again with Luke as bait in the hope of luring Vader in so Kenobi could try to kill him on Tatooine.

    I feel this really answers all the weirdities of the ending of Episode III. Things just turned out differently than Yoda had expected. Vader did assume that the baby died with Padme and he never took the bait to look for Luke with his step brother on Tatooine. Or bothered to check up on Owen at all (and why would he? the two men had exactly zero relationship so it would seem weird for Vader to pursue that thread). So after many years, Kenobi is starting to think he may be too old to take down Vader alone and he hasn't heard from Yoda so he thinks the original plan is likely a bust. So when he sees the opportunity to recruit Luke for training he takes it. Luke refuses, not understanding the stakes, but then accepts after Owen and Beru are murdered. The rest is history as they say.

    Now back to your regularly scheduled Star Trek discussion.

    --Alex
     
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  12. Tracy Trek

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    I've said this before. Luke knew she was adopted and he knew that she knew. He had just found out Leia was his sister. He was asking about THEIR REAL MOTHER, not Leia's adoptive mother.

    I also have a head canon about this. Luke does remember something. Padme's last words with her dying breath were "There's still good in him". Meaning Anakin. Luke believed the same thing and set off on his own to confront Vader/Anakin. Leia recalls images and feelings with the help of the force of a beautiful, kind but sad woman. And Luke recalls the words he hears.
     
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  13. Mr. Laser Beam

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    Just thought of more head canon:

    You know the engineer from TNG's "Skin of Evil" who insisted on saying his WHOLE NAME every time he spoke? I have a theory that he was a shellshocked war veteran who tended to repeat his name over and over as a way of dealing with the trauma (possibly torture) he suffered.
     
  14. Kor

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    Maybe he was supposed to become a recurring character, and TPTB wanted us to make note of his name.

    Kor
     
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  15. Shawnster

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    And how much "in the sticks" will there be 200 or 300 years from now?

    Where in the world do you live that they charge for library use? Why do you assume the Federation would work like that? Your critical reply of the idea falls pretty flat when you consider not everywhere works the way it does where you live. Times change, people change. Governments change. In the United States public libraries are free. Yes, you have to have a library card to get a book checked out and getting a library card requires proof of ID which includes one bill like a utility bill to verify your address. Library use is not fee based here in the USA. I do not need a library card to read books at the library or use the library's computer.

    Yes, I live in a fairly urbanized area. But, even then, bus transport doesn't run everywhere. It's easy, though, to extrapolate how such a public transportation service would work in the 23rd or 24th centuries with no money. Public transportation can be expanded into rural regions. Uber works mainly in urban areas but the principle can apply all over the world.

    Now, in full disclosure, I'm in the camp that the Federation does have a monetary base at least in the 23rd Century. There's too many references to credits or money in TOS. My opinion or head canon is that Kirk's comment about not having money meant not having CASH. Credits. Direct Deposti. Bitcoin. Debit cards. Pay Apps. I rarely use or carry cash now. If I was flung back in time to 1984 I'd be hard pressed to pay for a pizza and I'm from this time period.

    Don't shoot the idea down simply because your country or your community doesn't offer such services. The fact that free services like libraries exist, or public transportation exists, or free concerts in the park exist in the 21st Century is enough proof that it's POSSIBLE for a person in the 24th Century to live a life full of entertainment and culture without the need for money.
     
  16. Kor

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    My Trek head canon includes Forbidden Planet and 2001: A Space Odyssey, as they would enrich the Trek universe.

    And the original Mission: Impossible, just because.

    Kor
     
  17. Laura Cynthia Chambers

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    This fella? http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Leland_T._Lynch

    Maybe he wants to be a captain and is practicing using his full name, like Kirk did. He has the right middle initial, after all.
     
  18. Mr. Laser Beam

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    ^ Yep, that's the one. Although if Lynch wants to be a captain, he's got a long way to go. :lol:

    Yet more head canon: Captain Braxton from VOY (Future's End, Relativity) is the same character as "Al the Bartender" from the final episode of Quantum Leap. Not just because of the Bruce McGill connection, but they are literally the same character.

    In my view, after Braxton's trial he is given a choice of a time period to live out the remainder of his days. He chooses the 1950's, and builds the bar we see in the QL finale - reasoning that even if HE can't travel in time anymore, at least he can help others (like Sam Beckett) who do.

    (Fun fact: Allan Royal, the original Braxton from "Future's End", was a series regular on the greatest cop show of all time: Night Heat.)
     
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  19. JonnyQuest037

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    So when was he D-Day from Animal House?
     
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  20. Emperor Norton

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    Honestly, that's what Voyager should have been. Not perpetual misery, but the fact that things change, there is loss, and there are pressures. I believe nuBSG was the result of Ronald D. Moore working on Voyager and feeling it failed to do what it promised to be.
     
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