What would happen if you grabbed a leaf on the holodeck and tried to eat it?

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

If you're sick and take holo-medicine on a holodeck that isn't equipped to create matter, only project it with the appearance of reality, would the placebo effect come into play?

I suppose if Neelix can have holo-lungs...

 

[Sophie74656]

If you're sick and take holo-medicine on a holodeck that isn't equipped to create matter, only project it with the appearance of reality, would the placebo effect come into play?

I suppose if Neelix can have holo-lungs...

Neelix also had to lay perfectly still. He had to be in a restraint.

 

[Sophie74656]

Why bothering even building colonies once you have holodeck tech. just built a Yorktown sized holodecks and let the masses be happy and usually reasonably safe.

How much energy will that use? And what if there's a glitch or power failure or something

 

[eschaton]

How much energy will that use? And what if there's a glitch or power failure or something

Don't be silly. Nothing ever goes wrong with technology in Star Trek.

 

[BillJ]

Get the runs?

 

[hbquikcomjamesl]

Get the runs?

With fronds like these, who needs enemas?

 

[Sophie74656]

Don't be silly. Nothing ever goes wrong with technology in Star Trek.

Wasn't this literally a DS9 episode?

 

[eschaton]

Wasn't this literally a DS9 episode?

Sort of. They found a holographic colony which was created by one lonely guy. But it wasn't a holodeck since it was out in the open.

 

[Push The Button]

Why bothering even building colonies once you have holodeck tech. just built a Yorktown sized holodecks and let the masses be happy and usually reasonably safe.

Sounds like The Matrix.

Picard demonstrated in FC that Borg could be killed with holographic bullets. Maybe if they had replicated a few dozen real Thompsons and used those instead of the phaser rifles?

 

[XCV330]

Sounds like The Matrix.

There is a hypothesis that SETI may turn up zip because everyone out there reaches a point where they just put on the vr helmets and chill.

 

[eschaton]

There is a hypothesis that SETI may turn up zip because everyone out there reaches a point where they just put on the vr helmets and chill.

If computing ability continues to expand in its current fashion, it will be trivially easy to create entire virtual Earths as simulations by the 24th century than to actually settle other planets.

So much easier, that a lot of people (such as Elon Musk) believe the "simulation hypothesis." That is to say, given a future Earth civilization could run hundreds of different simulations of Earth over time, chances are based upon the law of averages we are not IRL, but in a simulation.

 

[Sophie74656]

Sounds like The Matrix.

Picard demonstrated in FC that Borg could be killed with holographic bullets. Maybe if they had replicated a few dozen real Thompsons and used those instead of the phaser rifles?

This may be effective for a short while. But the borg are good at adapting

 

[Tim Thomason]

Get the runs?

If you get the runs on the holodeck, will the holodeck actively cover this up, with quick transport, smell-covering systems, and discretely placed noises?

 

[UnknownSample]

Yes, it's a new-ish SF trope now that civilizations may go into self absorbed fantasy addiction in sealed-in hologrammatic environments, perhaps not even physically moving. Why actually do anything if the system can create experiences? I always think of this, whenever someone posts that constantly living in a holodeck would be perfect. It's not real, it's not life, it's scary as hell, and if future Trek has its head screwed on right, it'll have to start addressing this.

As for bullets in the First Contact movie, with the safeties off, obviously holo-bullets can kill... however when the bodies are carted off the holodeck to the morgue, the holo-bullets will disappear. The individuals will still stay just as dead.

 

[Sophie74656]

Yes, it's a new-ish SF trope now that civilizations may go into self absorbed fantasy addiction in sealed-in hologrammatic environments, perhaps not even physically moving. Why actually do anything if the system can create experiences? I always think of this, whenever someone posts that constantly living in a holodeck would be perfect. It's not real, it's not life, it's scary as hell, and if future Trek has its head screwed on right, it'll have to start addressing this.

As for bullets in the First Contact movie, with the safeties off, obviously holo-bullets can kill... however when the bodies are carted off the holodeck to the morgue, the holo-bullets will disappear. The individuals will still stay just as dead.

This was adressed with Barclay. There was an episode on his holo addiction. It was later brought up again in Pathfinder where he only feels at home and comfortable in his recteation of Voyager and says those characters are his only true friends.

 

[Makarov]

I guess it's addressed by the very nature of TNG's society. The goal is to improve yourself, and if you're in the holodeck all the time, that would pressure you to stop. Or someone else trying to improve themselves would stop you... some social worker specializing in holodeck addiction would come and try to get you out of it.

 

[Kor]

What would happen if someone were knocked up by a hologram then walked off the holodeck 6 months later?

See B'Elanna's holographic pregnancy in 'The Killing Game.'

...
Unless they've got something equivalent to what synthahol is to alcohol, in which case it would use that.

I've been arguing for some time that this would be a normal part of everyday life in a futuristic setting; recreational designer chemicals that have been engineered to provide a pleasurable experience but without any of the negative health effects.

Kor

 

[Sophie74656]

See B'Elanna's holographic pregnancy in 'The Killing Game.

The way it works in my mind....the holodeck projected a false belly with the baby in it right up against her stomach. That's how she was able to feel it kick. The baby was not actually inside of her

 

[XCV330]

See B'Elanna's holographic pregnancy in 'The Killing Game.'


I've been arguing for some time that this would be a normal part of everyday life in a futuristic setting; recreational designer chemicals that have been engineered to provide a pleasurable experience but without any of the negative health effects.

Kor

While it might not be physically addictive, the holodeck is addictive. Going in an progamming up a table full of coke might lead one to never want to come out.

 

[Sophie74656]

If you have an addictive peraonality, anything can be addicting. Shopping, porn, gaming, substances, anything.