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What would happen if you grabbed a leaf on the holodeck and tried to eat it?

joe40001

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1. Have we seen the holodeck make food via replication?
2. With something like a leaf wouldn't the holodeck assume you aren't going to eat it and thus only make it out of force fields?

Also hi, this is my first post here in like10 years.
 
1. Have we seen the holodeck make food via replication?
2. With something like a leaf wouldn't the holodeck assume you aren't going to eat it and thus only make it out of force fields?

Also hi, this is my first post here in like10 years.

Well, holodecks were described to convert energy into matter, so variety of things on the holodeck are actually real.
We've seen food being eaten on the holodeck that came from the holodeck... so I'd imagine that a computer which executes intructions at transluminal speeds would be able to predict various forms of behavior through elaborate sensors they use on Trek (which are accurate to the subatomic) and then ascertain that if a person tries to eat a leaf, the leaf in question will become real by changing it from a hologram to a real leaf via transporters/replicators conversion process.
 
Welcome back joe40001, I admire your avatar with Rick Berman's steely gaze steadily watching over this thread.

'Friends don't let friends eat holographic leaves' is my default sentiment on the topic, but as Deks indicates, there's likely some kind of matter conversion synthesis that happens when a holodeck participant wants to eat something - it the same tech as the food replicators. Maybe the systems are tied together.

I always rationalized it like this: holodeck programs with edible food (i.e. not photonic images only) used a lot more energy converting some of the food into physical, real food and thus would be a more expensive program to run, like Quark's would have some kind of all you can eat buffet and charge a higher rate than the same program that didn't include edible food.
 
You can absolutely eat things made in the holodeck. (I'm self-mandated to mention this is why I hate Voyager's approach to the holodeck, re: power consumption/incompatible energy systems/rationing.)
 
In a micro second while you move your hand holding the leaf towards your opening mouth. The computer morphs the leaf from being made of photons and forcefields into being made of gummi bears. It's all in the default settings.
 
The texture of chewing the leaf could be simulated. However, unless you program the simulation with specific flavor characteristics, it's unlikely to affect your ability to taste and digest the leaf. You could also disengage the safety protocols if you are feelin' lucky.
 
Hi, Joe! Hope you don't mind me asking why it's taken you so long to post and ten years?? :crazy: Blimey that's a helluva long time, almost a decade! :lol:
JB
 
Suppose you wanted to have a kid with your husband, but he's off on another planet. You could take a sample in advance and when you're both ready, you could be virtually together, and be artificially inseminated. It would appeal to people in that they would both have the memory of the time it happened, even if they weren't actually in the same room.
 
Suppose you wanted to have a kid with your husband, but he's off on another planet. You could take a sample in advance and when you're both ready, you could be virtually together, and be artificially inseminated. It would appeal to people in that they would both have the memory of the time it happened, even if they weren't actually in the same room.

There's another implication of the holo-communication. If you can broadcast your image, why can't you broadcast a hologram? And, does that hologram have to look exactly like you, or can it be a hologram that looks like something different but is fully controlled by you? Do 90 year old couples do this with their spouses controlling images of idealized versions of their 30 year old selves?
 
What's weird is I think if you were trapped on a holodeck for two weeks without food or water you could starve the death despite being full from spending those two weeks eating food and drinking water.

Jason
 
I got a another one. What if you programed to holograms with the ability to conceive children and turn the safeties off. Could two holograms create a third hologram baby?

Jason
 
Depends on the holodeck settings.

One the one hand, it would be just like eating replicated food.

On the other, it would be just swallowing a handful of air, which would cause a gigantic belch that would gross everyone out.

Except Worf.

He would congratulate you and grade the belch on a Klingon scale, taking into account depth, duration, and aroma.

Aroma being the deciding factor.

:techman:
 
You mean, like in VGR III:22, "Real Life"?

Well the Doctor had a holo-family but I think he proably created the kids from scratch instead of having sex with his holo-wife. It's very possible he hadn't even at this point created himself a holo-penis that he mentions to holo-Andy Dick.

Jason
 
The theory about quick change replication when you try to eat something could finally explain how Wesley Crusher's snowball was able to be thrown outside of the holodeck.
If he tried to eat some snow first.
 
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