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What were the coolest ST villains
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I'm going with Klingons on this one. I guess it's a childhood thing.
Ideal occupying overlords, eh? They won't bother you that much... as long as you don't disobey them or refuse to comply with them. Then they'll just kill hundreds of millions of people in a heartbeat.^Cardassians are Dominion.
Well of course they are.
Yknow what made the Dominion so frakkin great? That scene where Dukat and Damar are cackling about how the Dominion treaty with Bajor is just a stupid piece of paper that they can't wait to violate, and Weyoun smacks them down and puts them right in their place.
That shows that the Dominion really thinks - they want to use the treaty with Bajor as an example to the Alpha Quad that they really can be trusted, and from what we know, the Dominion treats subject words in the Gamma Quad pretty well, giving them protection and allowing them to trade and prosper, and all they ask in return is that nobody kicks up a fuss.
Because you can trust the Dominion not to plunder your planet, right? I mean what the frak does the Dominion want? Besides peace and quiet, apparently nothing. The Founders slosh around in their pond, and the Vorta and Jems have no interests outside of serving the Founders. They don't even have very wide-ranging tastes in food and therefore wouldn't even swipe your food supplies, much less anything else. They don't drink, no sex, no appreciation for art, no appetites for anything at all. Talk about your ideal alien overlords!
And that is what makes them so incredibly dangerous to the Federation - what they offer is a pretty attractive alternative to the Federation. You give up some freedom but get more ruthless protectors. Who would be better against a Borg attack, those Starfleet chickens or the Dominion, who are incapable of cowardice because death means nothing to the Vorta (hey there's always the next clone) or the Jems (death is the point of their existence)? My money would be on the Doms.
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I should have really voted for Dominion as the best, and scariest villains. But, even though I don't regard Cardies as strictly villains in the Trek universe, as they have played a more complex roles and been villains, antagonists, but also allies and victims, putting them in a poll has a similar effect on me as putting Spock in a poll - I just can't make myself vote for anyone else!
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Cardassians, hands down, specifically because they were so well developed that they were no longer easily pigeon holed into any one role. Adversaries, antagonists, foils, and at times reluctant allies, we got to see a wide enough sampling of the populace that it was clear there was no easy way to completely fathom their motives. The Dominion were scarier and more dangerous, yes, but no other race was better developed than the Cardassians, IMO.
Agreed, but that's why I went with Breen. Cardassians are the best developed and most fascinatingly complex Star Trek race, but I can't label them "villains". The Breen, on the other hand, remained largely a mystery, and all we saw of them was their adversarial facets, so the label fits there. They were pretty effective villains, in my eyes, because they're careful. They were among the most intelligent Trek villains, in the way their behaviour was portrayed. There were many hints as to how cautious and well-prepared they were. The caution they use when taking prisoners- stunning them from a safe distance, always sending more armed guards into a cell than prisoners in that cell, shocking the prisoners at the first sign of trouble- earned them points (and note all of Worf and Dax's escape attempts failed), as did their apparent refusal to tell the Dominion where their real homeworld was. Also, whereas Klingons, Cardassians, Talarians etc had many border wars with other powers, the Breen remained isolated, hiding their true strength, biding their time...I appreciate that, their waiting for the Federation's weakness before deciding to attack (it shows they're not unreasonably aggressive, but more calculating). Also, we all know you should "never turn your back on a Breen". If the Romulans respect them as foes that much....
Plus, I always assumed that, despite their nodding along to Weyoun's "we're all one big family" speeches, they were really rolling their eyes (or equivalent) underneath their helmets...
I'm a big fan of the Cardassians and the Dominion, but I'm minded to say the Romulans because they were less "bunch of guys in black hats" than the other villains. Plus their spaceships were easily the coolest and they had Andreas Katsulas!
Katsulas was a god among men. His acting presence is sorely, sorely missed.
Yes, I too will add my support to that comment. He was utterly fantastic.
The romulans because there is still an air of mystery surrounding them, and after all these years we still know little about them. And they just appear to be mean for the sake of it! It's funny with people like the Cardies we saw people like Garrack and Dukat and we got to know their characters and realised that they did infact have a 'human' side to them. We have never had this with the Romulans which makes them all the more interesting.
The Breen were really cool. I loved their electronic voices, big-ass environmental suits, and general demeanor.
But if only they'd come up with the reasons why they were 1)willing to join a losing war and 2)unwilling to give up when they apparently had nothing to gain by continued resistance.
^ 1) they probably had big egos. after following the dominion like lackies, they werent gonna back out and look like dummies for fighting in the first place. 2) they jumped in because they saw an oppurtunity to strike against the Feds, and then they were neck-high in the war. they had to fight then.
BW i voted 4 the dominion for reasons stated by every1 else, though i was stuck between them, rommies, and the breen.
BW i voted 4 the dominion for reasons stated by every1 else, though i was stuck between them, rommies, and the breen.
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