What went "right" for you with Voyager?

[Piano&Startrek]

On this topic I could go on forever. I think the main thing that made me love the show was the premise: the idea of a ship thrown halfway across the galaxy, yet the crew embrace it as an opportunity to 'explore strange new worlds' and 'go where no man has gone before'.

I love Janeway. I really do. She's everything a good person ought to be...she is patient, kind, she listens, she keeps her personal problems to herself, she doesn't complain, she likes a challenge, she would do anything for her crew. Sure, there are times when she is weak, but it's one of the things I love about her.

I also love the Doctor, Tuvok, Chakotay, Seven, Harry, and Icheb (I really just like everyone).

The alien races were great too, especially the Ocampa, Kazon, Species 8472, and the Hirogen (oh yeah). The Borg queen is great in this series too.

 

[JanewayRulz!]

On this topic I could go on forever.

A kindred spirit. Welcome!

 

[Saquist]

I've never seen a "man" run from a fight more times than Chakotay. He was a push over.

I guess you won't have a problem then naming some episodes where this actually happens, right?

...Scorpion...Hello...

Mines a little different

Seven of Nine
Janeway (Captain)
B'Elanna Torres
Kes
Icheb
Tuvok
Tom Paris
Harry Kim
Neelix


On the Worst side
The Doctor
Chakotay

Reasons:
Harry Kim was more MANLY than Chakotay.
Janeway was more Manly than Chakotay.
Seven was more MANLY than Chakotay
KES was more MANLY than Chakotay.

I've never seen a "man" run from a fight more times than Chakotay. He was a push over.

The Doctor in the end became obsessive. The Holographic THIS and Holographic THAT and HOLOGRAPHIC Rights.

Yeah, we're pretty much polar opposites. Our lists are completely different, and I liked the holographic rights episode.

However, we did find some common ground in the Chakotay character--you have him as your least favorite character, and I have him as my least favorite character save one.

I thought the holos were absolutely obsessive. I think the Holodeck was the most over played aspect of ship and in Season End it was out right dominating.

But yeah....Chakotay...BOOO

The suxy part is that I wanted to like him...all the characters were likeable some we just find annoying...I liked Neelix I found Chakotay annoying....because they played him as strong and decisive and at mid series he was very very subordinate not like a man that was used to having his own command.

On this topic I could go on forever.

A kindred spirit. Welcome!

 

[StarryEyed]

1. Interesting setting (lost in the Delta Quadrant).

2. Very cool ship design (except for the ridiculous planetary landing legs).

3. Best bridge design of any Trek ship.

4. A lot of VERY distinctive episodes.

5. The Doctor and Seven of Nine.

6. The Pathfinder arc.

7. Quantum Slipstream Drive.

8. The Borg. Yes, I'm one of those who actually liked the Borg on Voyager. I acknowledge there were a lot of problems and bad episodes but overall, I think they were well-done.

 

[Zameaze]

I thought the holos were absolutely obsessive. I think the Holodeck was the most over played aspect of ship and in Season End it was out right dominating.

I would have liked to have seen more episodes centered around the Holodeck--they were the most creative of all.

But yeah....Chakotay...BOOO

The suxy part is that I wanted to like him...all the characters were likeable some we just find annoying...I liked Neelix I found Chakotay annoying....because they played him as strong and decisive and at mid series he was very very subordinate not like a man that was used to having his own command.

I like the way you put that. Just like you, I liked Neelix and found Chakotay annoying.

 

[Luther Sloan]

I think they could have easily replaced Tuvok, Neelix, and Chakotay earlier on within the show.

Although, I do like Chakotay better than Riker, though.

 

[mythme]

I think the Paris/Torres relationship happened very naturally; probably the best coupling in all of Trek. Better than T'Pol/Trip, Riker/Troi or even Worf/Jadzia.

 

[Space Turtle]

I thought all the main charaters were very likeable and gelled well which created a real family feel. Kate Mulgrew brought so much to the part of Captain Janeway -I thought she did a great job!

Also liked the premise of being lost in space and the opportunity for new discoveries and adventures! The most important thing for me was the overall positive vibe of the show (-just a personal preference as I find some shows like BSG too grim).

Also, cool opening credit sequence!

 

[exodus]

I enjoyed Voyager because it combined the classic action/adventure style of Flash Gordon while keeping the morality play aspect of Trek.

It really was Trek for a new generation.

 

[Tidus79001]

Everything went right with Voyager for me. I was hooked on it even before the first episode had finished airing.

Star Trek had finally gotten back to the basics of Roddenberry’s ideals to“Explore strange new worlds”, “Seek out new life & new civilizations”, & “To boldly go where no man has gone before”.

There was real tension & conflict among the crew. It didn’t have feeling of the crew sitting around singing “Kumbayah” like the crew on “The Next Generation”, nor did the interactions of the crew feel contrived like the interactions between the crew of Deep Space Nine did.

Captain Janeway didn’t allow anyone to bully her around (just like Captain Kirk never let anyone bully him around). Capatin Janeway was an inspiring leader unlike Picard who made you just want to vaporize him with a phaser (Picard was always grumpy, stiff stuffy, and boring). Captain Janeway put her life on the line all of the time just like Captain Kirk (she didn’t need her first officer to run the ship for her & to lead the away missions). Unlike Sisko she didn’t sound like she was giving a sermon every time she spoke.

The speech that Captain Janeway gave at the end of the first episode “Caretaker” about the dangers ahead, the Starfleet & Maquis crews working together as one crew, the decision to stick to the Starfleet directive to seek out new worlds & explore space, and the dedication to find a faster way on the long journey home was one of the most powerful speechs ever in a Star Trek series.

Captain Janeway never took the easy way out (she chose to destroy the only way home Voyager had in order to save a alien species). Capatain Janeway resisted Q’s offer to send the ship home with a snap of his fingers. Even when Admiral Janeway on the last episode “Endgame” offered her an easy home she chose to take the risk of destroying the Borg’s transwarp hub in order to cripple the Borg in their quest to assimilate more species instead of just taking the sure route home. Janeway never allowed her morals to be compromised even in the darkest days in the Delta Quadrant.

The Doctor on Voyager was the best doctor in Star Trek since Dr. McCoy (he wasn't a rip off of Bones McCoy unlike the next Generation who tried a blatant Bones McCoy rip off when the introduced Dr. Pulaski & tried to have Data play the role of Spock with her).

B'Elanna Torres was the best engineer in Star Trek since Scotty. I can't imagine being stuck in the middle of nowhere with some less resourceful than her. Voyager brought back the Miracle worker theme with B'Elanna Torres & that made her such a fun character (Scotty was one of the most endearing parts of Star Trek: The Original Series). The Next Generation didn't even have a real Chief Engineer until Geordi La Forge was promoted to the position season 2 (still he wasn't a Miracle Worker, and he never really seemed to be all that resourceful & he came across as a more of a practical by the book engineer). The Miracle Work idea was totally snubbed by The Next Generation writers when they had Geordi La Forge take offense at Mr. Scott suggesting that concept to him. Deep Space Nine didn't even have a Chief Engineer (Chief O'Brien was the Chief Operations Officer & sometime they would let Rom who wasn't an engineer tinker with thing on the station). Roddenberry considered the role the Chief engineer to be as important as that of the role of the Captain (I don't know the exact source, but in a autobiography book that I own he had indicated that the Captain & Chief Engineer really symbolic of the same person due to their pride, love & attachment to the ship that they called their own).

Voyager was a completely original design for a Star Trek ship. I like the ship design much better than that of the Enterprise D. To me the Enterprise D looked that someone had hammered on the hull of Kirk’s Enterprise & kept at it until it had flattened out. Did I mention that Voyager can land on the surface of planets? Also did I mention the warp nacelles moved!

The special effects were great. I was blown away by how natural all of the effects looked on the show. OMG, it is finally a Star Trek show enough of a budget for awesome special effects! The Voyager intro credits really drove the point about special effects home (unlike the Next Generation that had its intro revamped in season 4 because it was so cheaply put together & had such an awful synthesized sound to the theme music. Deep Space Nine had the worst into ever & no amount of revamping was ever able to help it). The only change the Voyager intro credit ever had was removing Jennifer Lien’s name to input Jeri Ryan’s name.

Jerry Goldsmith got the music right on the first try & never had to revamp the Voyager theme music (Star Trek: The Motion picture had its theme music revamped from its original version because it reminded editor Todd Ramsay & director Robert Wise of sailing ships)

The theme music was the best out of any Star Trek series ever. I didn’t like The Next Generation theme music (it was just a faster tempo version of Star Trek: The Motion Picture & The Next Generation had it revamped along with the its credits for season 4).

On Voyager they actually explored worlds instead of exploring the inner depths of their emotions (The Next Generation was too touchy-feely for me (*puke*). If I wanted to see people explore the inner depths of their emotions I would watch a soap opera!) On Voyager they left the ship instead of just frolicing around on the holodeck like on The Next Generation. Also they had a ship unlike Deep Space Nine which didn’t have a ship until season 3 when they introduced the Defiant to remedy the idiotic decision not to have ship in the first place (the runabout idea was a really seemed like a bad JOKE since it really wasn’t designed for long range deep space exploration nor was it capable of real defense of the space station)

It wasn’t a prequel like Enterprise (I always thought the prequel concept was a bad idea & this did lead to the untimely early demise of the show).

Last but definitely by no means least IT WASN”T ABRAMS-TREK!

 

[Luther Sloan]

Deep Space Nine Seasons 4-7 blows away Voyager ten times over. That said, I still love Voyager a lot and Deep Space Nine's Season's 1-2 are painful to bring up to memory. The thing that was great about Voyager is that I liked the series from start to finish (minus a few bad apple episodes of course).

I also would rather be friends with Captain Sisko than Janeway. He seemed like someone you could relax with and just be yourself if you caught him at the right time and place. Although, I liked Janeway because she had a strong morale center and was very diplomatic and caring, she just didn't know when to let her hair down and relax as much (as she should have).

 

[JanewayRulz!]

...if you caught him at the right time & place...

I really liked Captain Sisko, but if I wrote this I would have changed it to "Janeway" was someone I thought I could be chums with rather than Sisko. Then again, I'd rather play velocity than baseball. ;-)

 

[Trek_princess]

Voyager has some great characters. Robert Picardo's portrayal of The Doctor is amazing. Before I started watching the show, I didn't think I'd like a holographic doctor: I didn't think he would really have personality or be a real character (boy was I wrong!).

Another character I really like but didn't think I would was Seven of Nine. I knew what she looked like before I started watching the episodes with her in it. Because she is so beautiful and sexy (I swear, she looks just like a Borg Barbie doll) I thought that her looks would be the defining point of her character - I sort of assumed that she was just there to be eye candy, but she's a very interesting character. I love how she struggles with social interactions and her individuality. I like her extreme bluntness ("Do you wish to copulate?" haha) and her honesty. She offers a lot of interesting observations about humans and what it means to behave like a human.

I also really liked Ensign Vorik. I thought it was funny how B'elanna would often get irritated with him, seeing as how he's Vulcan and is supposed to be a super-perfect worker. Also, it doesn't hurt that Alexander Enberg is adorable

 

[T'Girl]

“Explore strange new worlds”
“Seek out new life & new civilizations”
“To boldly go where no man has gone before”.

Voyager did more actual exploring than any other ships in the Star Trek collection of series's. The producers took more chances with the scripts and the concepts, no it didn't always work out and pulled some big boners, but you could tell that they weren't playing it safe, which you can't say about the other series.

I thought in the character of Tuvok we got to see a "average" Vulcan. He wasn't estranged from his family like Spock or T'Pol, while he may have had difficulty using the term, he loved his wife and children, and very much missed them in his life. His wife felt thek same for for him and showed as much concern for him as her culture would permit. I liked the friendship between Tuvok and Neelix, after Janeway it was Neelix that Tuvok was closest to among the crew, it was alwaya joy watching them interact.