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What was wrong with "These are the Voyages"

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I think I never saw this episode in it's entirety, because I'm just watching it now and when Riker freezes the holodeck in the beginning, it's totally jarring. I remember parts of it vaguely. Maybe I saw it at the end of its run ages ago and missed part of it. I thought I watched it years ago on DVD but I guess not.

All I can say is that switching to it being on TNG is an outrage. It's a TNG episode. I don't care how they sneak in the Ent crew to try to make it look like an ENT episode, the setting is ultimately on TNG and therefore it's a TNG episode.

After season 3 and 4 being so awesome, this is such a lame duck way to end it. They could have gotten their point across so much better. Hack writing at its finest.
 
^^ From the American Heritage Dictionary:

outrage, n. 1. An act of extreme violence or viciousness. 2. An act grossly offensive to decency or good taste. 3. Resentful anger.

From the posts I've seen here about TATV, I think "outrage" is an apt word for many.
 
^ "Betrayal" would be fine. Even I might agree to it.

2. An act grossly offensive to decency or good taste.
That definition fits Mel Gibsons' taped calls, and maybe "Bound", but not TATV, sorry. At the very worst, it's a well-intentioned, ill-conceived misfire. ;)
 
Outrage!!:mad:

All I can say is that switching to it being on TNG is an outrage.

From the posts I've seen here about TATV, I think "outrage" is an apt word for many.

Personally, I prefer....

BETRAYAL!!!!!

;)


hy·per·bo·le
[hahy-pur-buh-lee]
–noun Rhetoric .
1. obvious and intentional exaggeration.

2. an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as “to wait an eternity.”
 
A slight misspelling of the name on my part.

From Wikipedia:

Joseph Anthony Pisarcik (born July 2, 1952, in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania) is a former American football quarterback who played in the National Football League ... is best remembered for his role in a November 19, 1978, game where the Giants, ahead 17-12 with only seconds to play and their opponent out of time-outs, lost after his handoff (a play called by offensive coordinator Bob Gibson over Pisarcik's objections) to Larry Csonka was fumbled and returned for a touchdown by Herman Edwards of the Philadelphia Eagles. The play has since been referred to as "The Fumble" by Giants fans and "The Miracle at the Meadowlands" by Eagles fans. For many years afterwords, the play caused Giants' fans to refer to him dersively as "Joe PISS-arcik" (emphasis on the "PISS").
Apparently, Csonka wasn't expecting a handoff, because he made absolutely no attempt to take the ball from Pisarcik. Instead, he just runs forward, preparing to block, thus knocking the ball out of Picarcik's outstretched hands, just in time for Edwards to recover it and run it back the short distance for the winning touchdown (the Giants were deep in their own territory, but again, the Eagles were out of time outs, there were only a few seconds left on the clock, and all Joe had to do was take a knee, game over, Giants win; but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...).

This episode amounts to the same thing. The previous episode was excellent, they knew it was their last week, all they had to do was put together a good, solid effort, and the thing wraps up on a high note. Instead, they do something stupid in an attempt to pull off something spectacular, and the thing crashes and burns.
 
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I just see TATV a little differently, I guess.. I think of it as a coda to the series.. Lackluster? Sure, but certainly not the worst episode of all of Star Trek.

I just don't find the episode that offensive, just clunky.
 
The offensive part is that this is what they decided to end the series on.

And just when we'd thought they'd learned their lesson with "Endgame"...
 
Or, much better, the final episode ends with Hoshi getting the distress call, Archer says to set an intercept course and we see Enterprise jump to warp before fading to credits.
 
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