What was up with Zoe Saldana's... (trailer spoiler)

[JoeZhang]

Enterprise: "The decontamination chamber and catsuits are embarassing and puerile."

Star Trek XI: "What are you all a bunch of prudes? Haha, you virgins need to get out more."

There is a tonal difference in the two - the first is an example of the puerile - it's trying to use sex in a "nudge nudge" fashion. Getting straight to the point and having Kirk go balls deep with some woman he's picked up in a bar is a more realistic take on it - something that people can understand from their own life.

 

[sbk1234]

Apparently having that lift and support is still important to them... who woulda thunk?

Dealing with a situation where they may suffer a loss of gravity at basically any time, I should think extra support up there would be a necessity. In an emergency situation, lack of support could be just too damn distracting to the male members of the crew.

 

[Vulcan Soul]

I saw the trailer today when I watched Quantum of Solace, and I noticed a quick clip where Zoe Saldana does a "quickeroo!" in changing into her red regulation uniform.

So, the girls still wear 20th century style department store white bras in the 23rd century?

She could've padded it at least a bit, d'oh

 

[M'Sharak]

I saw the trailer today when I watched Quantum of Solace, and I noticed a quick clip where Zoe Saldana does a "quickeroo!" in changing into her red regulation uniform.

So, the girls still wear 20th century style department store white bras in the 23rd century?

I thought a 'quickeroo' was the term for an Australian cowboy with premature ejaculation issues.

I'm honestly not sure what he meant by that...

Well, since the basic shape and form of breasts is still the same in the 23rd century, I don't see why bras should undergo drastic changes.

...but I find this somehow reassuring.

Is it true that JTK and Nyota Uhura are going to get it on in this film?

This definitely counts as the "first interracial kiss" according to the TOS chronology.

I see what you did right there.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

Well, since the basic shape and form of breasts is still the same in the 23rd century, I don't see why bras should undergo drastic changes.

I just hope they do cool things. I mean, a bra is a bra, but a futuristic bra should be better!

Perhaps a bra with a holographic system that creates the perfect sized breasts.

We already have those- they're called wonderbras or push-ups. I always wear one when I'm looking to get a day off *grin*

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

Well, since the basic shape and form of breasts is still the same in the 23rd century, I don't see why bras should undergo drastic changes.

I just hope they do cool things. I mean, a bra is a bra, but a futuristic bra should be better!

Perhaps a bra with a holographic system that creates the perfect sized breasts.

We already have those- they're called wonderbras or push-ups. I always wear one when I'm looking to get a day off *grin*

Pictures!

 

[Cary L. Brown]

Or since she was going to get it on with Kirk, she wore an antic bra to make him even more aroused...given his love for the old.

That's what I don't like about this...

Uhura is part of Kirk's CREW during TOS. The folks who did TOS "got it" that Kirk couldn't be romantically (or sexually) involved with any member of his crew. They played with this, briefly, with Rand... and there was what's-her-name, from "Dagger of the Mind" who he had a DELUSION of being involved with (but had only danced with, briefly, at a party).

A real commanding officer can't have that sort of involvement with his (or her) crew. Anyone who's really served "gets" that.

FYI... not that I'm saying that the original script was different, just saying "what if"...

Spoiler: spoiler

suppose that the scene we've heard about, with Kirk in the bar picking up Uhura for a quickie and getting into a barfight with Sulu, were different?

Suppose this wasn't "civilian" Kirk, but rather "Lieutenant Kirk," the "stack of books with legs," and he'd gotten coerced into going out by Gary Mitchell... ran into a little blond lab tech named Carol, and ended up in a bar fight with a guy named Finnegan? And instead of Pike breaking it up, suppose it was Ben Finney who broke it up?

I'm not telling anyone that's what the original version of the script said... no, not me... but if that was the original form, and they "fixed" that to give more of a focus on the "stars" (at the expense of the story)... wouldn't that be a shame?

Suppose that 12-year-old Jimmy Kirk was at his dad's funeral at Starfleet, ran away at the end, got chased (not driving a corvette!) and ended up stumbling upon the Starfleet San Francisco Naval Yards where some starship components were under construction (maybe even bits of the Enterprise). And while there, he were to meet a very very old man, in a wheelchair (hoverchair?) who'd give him "the speech" which would jumpstart his career? Maybe even an old man named "Archer?"

 

[wamdue]

Well, since the basic shape and form of breasts is still the same in the 23rd century, I don't see why bras should undergo drastic changes.

I just hope they do cool things. I mean, a bra is a bra, but a futuristic bra should be better!

Perhaps a bra with a holographic system that creates the perfect sized breasts.

We already have those- they're called wonderbras or push-ups. I always wear one when I'm looking to get a day off *grin*

im going to regret this, but I thought you were a man?

*looks in profile*

ok it seems you are a girl

 

[RoJoHen]

Well, since the basic shape and form of breasts is still the same in the 23rd century, I don't see why bras should undergo drastic changes.

I just hope they do cool things. I mean, a bra is a bra, but a futuristic bra should be better!

Perhaps a bra with a holographic system that creates the perfect sized breasts.

We already have those- they're called wonderbras or push-ups. I always wear one when I'm looking to get a day off *grin*

No, those just give the illusion of bigger breasts. The Hologram Bra would actually be able to project life-like breast tissue for men to play with. You could even change the setting on the bra to make it look like you're not wearing it at all.

 

[SalvorHardin]

Or since she was going to get it on with Kirk, she wore an antic bra to make him even more aroused...given his love for the old.

That's what I don't like about this...

Uhura is part of Kirk's CREW during TOS. The folks who did TOS "got it" that Kirk couldn't be romantically (or sexually) involved with any member of his crew. They played with this, briefly, with Rand... and there was what's-her-name, from "Dagger of the Mind" who he had a DELUSION of being involved with (but had only danced with, briefly, at a party).

A real commanding officer can't have that sort of involvement with his (or her) crew. Anyone who's really served "gets" that.

I doubt when the sex takes place Uhura is part of Kirk's crew.
Much more likely they are two cadets having fun at that point.

Don't see anything wrong with that.

This movie is not set during TOS.
It's set before it.

 

[Carbon Unit]

I just hope they do cool things. I mean, a bra is a bra, but a futuristic bra should be better!

Perhaps a bra with a holographic system that creates the perfect sized breasts.

It worked for Scotty!

 

[Jon1701]

FYI... not that I'm saying that the original script was different, just saying "what if"...

Spoiler: spoiler

suppose that the scene we've heard about, with Kirk in the bar picking up Uhura for a quickie and getting into a barfight with Sulu, were different?

I didn't see this in the trailer.

I hope this isn't a spoiler, Cary.

 

[M'Sharak]

FYI... not that I'm saying that the original script was different, just saying "what if"...

Spoiler: spoiler

suppose that the scene we've heard about, with Kirk in the bar picking up Uhura for a quickie and getting into a barfight with Sulu, were different?

I didn't see this in the trailer.

I hope this isn't a spoiler, Cary.

It kinda is, actually.

 

[Jon1701]

FYI... not that I'm saying that the original script was different, just saying "what if"...

Spoiler: spoiler

suppose that the scene we've heard about, with Kirk in the bar picking up Uhura for a quickie and getting into a barfight with Sulu, were different?

I didn't see this in the trailer.

I hope this isn't a spoiler, Cary.

It kinda is, actually.

I suspected as much.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Apparently, its a plot point

Spoiler: Uhura's bra

Spock uses the Bra to get back to the 24th Century. By tweaking the left and right cups he can create temportal subspace field energy. Or it could be slingshot around the sun again. I'm not sure.

Spoilers about Uhura's bra. Now I know you people are getting punchy.

 

[Eric Cheung]

So, the girls still wear 20th century style department store white bras in the 23rd century?

Well, I'll tell you what ... when they change the design of the girls, they'll change the design of the bra.

History says otherwise. My point in the earlier post could be extended to include the first sentence of this article in Wikipedia.

The history of the bra is inextricably intertwined with the social history of the status of women, including the evolution of fashion and changing views of the body.

The question is therefore what is the future social history in terms of gender relations in Star Trek's universe? It effects at least appear to be answered in part by Uhura's bra. Presumably in a big picture sense, everyone in the Federation will be liberated. In an organization like Starfleet there will be more regulation. The balance between the two would appear to be expressed by Uhura's bra.

In worlds like art and fashion, we only know past eras and the current one: post-modernism. My only prediction, as someone who's not an expert on fashion or sociology is that it's hard to predict what's after post-modernism, by its own definition.

Have we ever even seen anyone's underwear on Star Trek outside of ENT? In ENT, it appeared to be largely unisex military boxer briefs and sports bras. Before this trailer I don't recall seeing underwear in the 23rd century, and I think in the 24th century something like underwear would have been more likely dictated by civilian fashion choices. But that's all still within Starfleet. Who knows what Earth fashion is or human fashion is, or where the overlap is or isn't.

 

[benjie1]

Thats right the girls are still the same and so they will wear bra ..

 

[SalvorHardin]

Congratulations on your first totally unnecessary thread necromancy

 

[btflash]

Well, since the basic shape and form of breasts is still the same in the 23rd century, I don't see why bras should undergo drastic changes.

yes , but in the future they don't care about such stuff......

 

[Cary L. Brown]

Congratulations on your first totally unnecessary thread necromancy

You did notice that the guy you were referring to is new here, didn't you? So what's wrong with reading all the thread titles and commenting on those he's (?) interested in?

Seems to me that's a sign of the individual being INTERESTED.

Who, exactly, are you to decide what's "necessary" and what's "unnecessary?" Believe it or not, this entire BBS is "unnecessary." And thus, every single post you (or any of us, for that matter) have ever made is "unnecessary."

Personally, I think it's not only "cool" but actually really great for someone new to discover the BBS and to take the time to read through threads and comment on things that he (or she) is interested in.

But apparently you disagree. Oh well...