Someone who lost too much in The Burn, went mad, and tried to stop the Fed from forming in order to prevent The Burn. I'd buy that...It would be delicious if DSC revealed who Future Guy was after all this time but I'm not counting on it.
What was "The Burn" and what caused it?
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So basically the Federation had 200 years to switch to singularity generators but didn't for some reason?
If the tech killed someone they would have put the kibosh on it real quick. That's how the Federation works.
I thought they could recrystalize dilithium in the 24th century?
Apparently that doesn't count anymore?
Apparently that doesn't count anymore?
I thought they could recrystalize dilithium in the 24th century?
Apparently that doesn't count anymore?
There is a lot that isn’t real clear from my POV about The Burn.
If dilithium was destroyed at the molecular level and "cleansed" and wiped clean of energy-harnessing abilities recrystallization in the 23rd and 24th century sense might not be possible. This is sounding more and more like a molecular attack on dilithium across the galaxy and this could point to some great power or intelligence launching it, like time travelers or transdimensional entities.
Out of the D'deridex's 23 appearances in TNG/DS9 (thanks, Memory Alpha) their artificial singularity drive causes 2 separate timey-wimey incidents. Perhaps a ~10% chance of causing Event Horizon each time they use their warp drive was enough to force a change.
And, others have said this as well, they mine dilithium on Remus. They have an entire slave caste dedicated to it. We don't know for sure whether or not they need it to run the artificial singularity drives but I can't see an insular state like the Romulans going to all that trouble for an export commodity. And sure it might be "contrived" that they require dilithium for the artificial singularity but.. dilithium is already contrived. It's the magic crystal wot makes ships go fast.
And, others have said this as well, they mine dilithium on Remus. They have an entire slave caste dedicated to it. We don't know for sure whether or not they need it to run the artificial singularity drives but I can't see an insular state like the Romulans going to all that trouble for an export commodity. And sure it might be "contrived" that they require dilithium for the artificial singularity but.. dilithium is already contrived. It's the magic crystal wot makes ships go fast.
Book mentions that Burnham's collision knocked out his dilithium recrystalizer. As for why the couriers can't just continue using the same piece for an extended period when their recrystalizer actually works-- my assumption is that they are using very low quality dilithium that in previous eras would have been considered scrap. It'll work, technically, and you can even recrystalize it a few times but eventually it's going to break down.I thought they could recrystalize dilithium in the 24th century?
Apparently that doesn't count anymore?
Well, no era of Trek history has shown anyone able to do that. You can't replicate dilithium, neither, so maybe there's something at the molecular level that prevents it from doing anything other than forming naturally and being mined? The only way it works is in its natural, mined state.
Anything that formed naturally can be artificially reproduced by replicating the same process that naturally caused it to form in the first place.
The only problem comes when the method to replicate that process is particularly energy intensive. But even that's not really a problem in this case since they could just build giant fusion reactors on a planet somewhere.
Of course, all this fails to the point that YOU DON'T NEED DILITHIUM TO REGULATE OR GENERATE THE POWER NECESSARY TO REACH WARP SPEEDS.
Book mentioned in episode 1 that he had a recrystalizer in his ship, but it was damaged in the crash.I thought they could recrystalize dilithium in the 24th century?
Apparently that doesn't count anymore?
Plus the event that caused the burn caused dilihtium became inert, not that it was de-crystalized.
Burnham: Captain Saru, I must to talk to you.
Saru: Michael. We are on our way to make sure Book turns over his dilithium to the Federation.
Burnham: He won't give up his dilithium. I've just learned a terrible truth. I think Cleveland Booker is an Augment.
Saru: An Augment?!
Burnham: Yes. The one who caused the Burn.
Saru: How do you know this?
Burnham: He has superhuman abilities. He's been trained to use them offensively.
Saru: Then our worst fears have been realized. We must move quickly if the Federation is to survive.
Burnham: Saru, Book is very powerful. You'll need my help if you're going to arrest him.
Saru: For your own good, stay out of this affair. I sense a great deal of confusion in you, Michael. The relationship you had with Book clouds your judgement.
Burnham: I must go, Saru.
Saru: No. For now, remain here. Wait in the bridge until we return.
Burnham: Yes, captain.
Saru: Michael. We are on our way to make sure Book turns over his dilithium to the Federation.
Burnham: He won't give up his dilithium. I've just learned a terrible truth. I think Cleveland Booker is an Augment.
Saru: An Augment?!
Burnham: Yes. The one who caused the Burn.
Saru: How do you know this?
Burnham: He has superhuman abilities. He's been trained to use them offensively.
Saru: Then our worst fears have been realized. We must move quickly if the Federation is to survive.
Burnham: Saru, Book is very powerful. You'll need my help if you're going to arrest him.
Saru: For your own good, stay out of this affair. I sense a great deal of confusion in you, Michael. The relationship you had with Book clouds your judgement.
Burnham: I must go, Saru.
Saru: No. For now, remain here. Wait in the bridge until we return.
Burnham: Yes, captain.
You guys do know that after the burn happened you probably had a lot of finger pointing the Klingons probably blamed the romulans who blamed the federation and they had their own house to sort out with the Vulcans Andorians and Tellarites all pointing at Humans for this crisis.
LOL.
LOL.
“V’Draysh” is their name for “Federation”. So, probably wrong.
Or maybe the dilithium is used in a similar manner to regulate the flow of power that comes out of the singularity.
(oops, late to the party again)
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But is it THE Federation?
It's not even an alternative name, it's just a really bad, intentional mispronunciation. Fed(e)rat(ion). It's like when people call it 'Murica instead of America.
I wonder if the V'Draysh is why the 32nd century Federation flag is missing so many stars. The V'Draysh was a secessionist movement that withdrew and took a lot of Federation member worlds with it?
I think he was referring I 'm being wrong about the V'draysh being the cause of the burn.
