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What was "The Burn" and what caused it?

So, looking more likely that it is the collapse of subspace, which would mean subspace communications are gone, and if this prevents warp drive from working, that would keep people separated.

Doesn't need to be related to subspace. Kurtzman only said that the Federation didn't fall because of themselves. Maybe the Pah Wraiths or another outside factor influenced the people and cultures in the galaxy by creating distrust and unrest. Which would be in line with him saying that the Burn changed the way people communicated and that it separated them.

If subspace was destroyed or damaged in the whole galaxy, Book's ship computer and sensors most likely wouldn't be able to detect a space time anomaly, like we have seen in the clip from the beginning of the first episode of Season 3.
 
This Bustle article has a bit of clarification about The Burn (as far as I know, at least):
https://www.bustle.com/entertainment/star-trek-discovery-season-3-timelines-plot-characters

When Burnham first arrives in 3188, she's told that The United Federation of Planets no longer exists, and that all starships capable of warp drive were destroyed in something called "The Burn," an incident about 100 or 120 years prior in which all of the dilithium in the galaxy suddenly went boom, leading to millions of lives lost and the end of The Federation as Burnham knew it. But as she says, "The Federation isn't about ships and warp drive. It's about a vision and those that believe in that vision."
 
So, warp drive is is now impossible, meaning Disco with its spore drive is now the only ship capable of interstellar travel.
This Bustle article has a bit of clarification about The Burn (as far as I know, at least):
https://www.bustle.com/entertainment/star-trek-discovery-season-3-timelines-plot-characters

When Burnham first arrives in 3188, she's told that The United Federation of Planets no longer exists, and that all starships capable of warp drive were destroyed in something called "The Burn," an incident about 100 or 120 years prior in which all of the dilithium in the galaxy suddenly went boom, leading to millions of lives lost and the end of The Federation as Burnham knew it. But as she says, "The Federation isn't about ships and warp drive. It's about a vision and those that believe in that vision."
What about transwarp beaming?

Also, good to see they're keeping continuity with Enterprise by dating the Burn only within the past century, as Enterprise showed that the Federation was just fine in the 31st century.
 
So, warp drive is is now impossible, meaning Disco with its spore drive is now the only ship capable of interstellar travel.

Discovery should still be able to go to warp since they still have dilithium crystals. Though once those run out, yeah, spore drive it is
 
This Bustle article has a bit of clarification about The Burn (as far as I know, at least):
https://www.bustle.com/entertainment/star-trek-discovery-season-3-timelines-plot-characters

When Burnham first arrives in 3188, she's told that The United Federation of Planets no longer exists, and that all starships capable of warp drive were destroyed in something called "The Burn," an incident about 100 or 120 years prior in which all of the dilithium in the galaxy suddenly went boom, leading to millions of lives lost and the end of The Federation as Burnham knew it. But as she says, "The Federation isn't about ships and warp drive. It's about a vision and those that believe in that vision."

This raises the question of what happens to Discovery's dilithum when it appears. Does it go "boom" and cripple the ship temporarily? Or does Discovery have both a working warp and spore drive - albeit with the former having a limited lifespan?
 
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This raises the question of what happens to Discovery's dilithum when it appears. Does it go "boom" and cripple the ship temporarily? Or does Discovery have both a working warp and spore drive - albeit with the latter having a limited lifespan?

Yes, this was my question.

So, was the Burn a single event or is it now an ongoing state where any future use of dilithum will result in crippling devastation?
 
I find it very hard to believe that the Borg, with all sorts of alternative transportation tech that they constantly assimilate including transwarp and transwarp beaming that don't rely on dilithium seemingly, would be affected by the Burn. Why isn't Booker a Borg? Or maybe he is? Is that the plot twist? He looks human but he's a Borg inside? :borg:

Since the Discovery crew disappeared long before the Borg showed up, they wouldn't know about them.

Booker: And then the Burn happened. Resistance was futile.

Burnham: How horrible for the Federation! You certainly have a way with words.

Booker: Thanks. (Turns and winks at the camera).

Audience: :eek:
 
All dilithium going out. Hard to believe the Federation couldn't or wouldn't pursue alternative fuel.

On the other hand, banning time-travel after the Temporal Cold War makes sense.
 
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All dilithium going out. Hard to believe the Federation couldn't or would've pursue alternative fuel.

On the other hand, banning time-travel after the Temporal Cold War makes sense.
Well with most of the federation cut off, I imagine they started focusing on resource management first. Transwarp shouldn't be effected, since that usses beneite crystals or whatever, not dilithium

Also I missed that part about Time Travel, interesting
 
What about the Romulans? Their cores used a singularity not a Matter/Antimatter reaction, so they logically wouldn't use dilithium crystals

And didn't some Delta Quadrant races use tetryon power cores?
 
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What about the Romulans? Their cores used a singularity not a Matter/Antimatter reaction, so they logically wouldn't use dilithium crystals

And didn't some Delta Quadrant races use tetryon power cores?
I thought about the Romulans too, but honestly I wouldn't be surprised if their tech died out more or less when their homeworld exploded a millennium ago. Then there was that episode about those aliens who got into a fight with Romulans because they put their kids into a Romulan singularity or something like that.
 
We know that dilithium is a strategic resource only available on a few planets. Since many planets - including Earth - independently develop warp without dilithium reserves, it must not be absolutely necessary for at least low-warp vessels.
 
We know that dilithium is a strategic resource only available on a few planets. Since many planets - including Earth - independently develop warp without dilithium reserves, it must not be absolutely necessary for at least low-warp vessels.
Are we sure Zefram Cochrane didn't artificially create dilithium in some lab for his flight?
 
We know that dilithium is a strategic resource only available on a few planets. Since many planets - including Earth - independently develop warp without dilithium reserves, it must not be absolutely necessary for at least low-warp vessels.

We don't know Earth doesn't have dilithium. Just that it's not super abundant here. For all we know a fair bit of the quartz on the planet could be dilithium and we don't have the technology to detect it yet.

also no dilithium wouldn't affect subspace communications, which seemed to be implied by the trailer.
 
This Bustle article has a bit of clarification about The Burn (as far as I know, at least):
https://www.bustle.com/entertainment/star-trek-discovery-season-3-timelines-plot-characters

When Burnham first arrives in 3188, she's told that The United Federation of Planets no longer exists, and that all starships capable of warp drive were destroyed in something called "The Burn," an incident about 100 or 120 years prior in which all of the dilithium in the galaxy suddenly went boom, leading to millions of lives lost and the end of The Federation as Burnham knew it. But as she says, "The Federation isn't about ships and warp drive. It's about a vision and those that believe in that vision."
So... Another giant Discovery plothole that tells us it exists in some sort of alternate universe?

Because Dilithium isn't necessary for Warp Travel.
 
This Bustle article has a bit of clarification about The Burn (as far as I know, at least):
https://www.bustle.com/entertainment/star-trek-discovery-season-3-timelines-plot-characters

When Burnham first arrives in 3188, she's told that The United Federation of Planets no longer exists, and that all starships capable of warp drive were destroyed in something called "The Burn," an incident about 100 or 120 years prior in which all of the dilithium in the galaxy suddenly went boom, leading to millions of lives lost and the end of The Federation as Burnham knew it. But as she says, "The Federation isn't about ships and warp drive. It's about a vision and those that believe in that vision."

A quick question: Are you editorializing a little bit or is there another source of information?

Because it says...
When Burnham first arrives in 3188, she's told that The United Federation of Planets no longer exists, and that all starships capable of warp drive were destroyed in something called "The Burn," an incident about 100 or 120 years prior which led to millions of lives lost and the end of The Federation as Burnham knew it. But as she says, "The Federation isn't about ships and warp drive. It's about a vision and those that believe in that vision."

There's no mention of...
Dilithium

Did they maybe edit the article?

Either way, we'll find out in a few more days.
 
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