What was Picard and Co. doing during the Dominion War?

[Timo]

That would work nicely on so many levels. Rua'fo would list the Borg, the Cardassians and the Dominion among "past" UFP enemies (or challengers from "the last 24 months" as he puts it). The UFP would in turn be able to at least tolerate these people who had aided and abetted the enemy in the last big one.

...And the Son'a would probably time their whole plan so that it would help them bargain for their future in front of the victors of the recent war, as the Son'a had decidedly been on the losing side. If not for such a pressing political reason, they would probably not have bothered to deal with the Federation at all, since the only thing they really needed and wanted to do would have been to sail in with the collector thing, fire it, and get eternal youth for themselves plus a painful death for the Ba'ku.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[2 of 10]

It's not uncommon not to send out the Flagship of the fleet into battle. In WWII both the Germans after the Bismark was sunk in 1940, did not sent out any other Capitol ships into major battles, they were kept close to German occupied France and Norway, and were involved in small attacks.
Japan did sent the Yamoto into one or two battles, but they were also hesistant to send her into many major battles, her final mission was a suicide mission to Okanawa, she was sunk on the way there.

I did not start this off to be a history lesson, however, the point is valid. Mabey the Federation did not want to lose it's Flagship in Battle. One would think that if the Enterprise was involved in major battles, you would have at least heard of her exploits in those battles...

Resistance is Futile

 

[c0rnedfr0g]

^^ well i assume the E-E would've been ordered to fight of the FC Cube providing Picard had not already been assimilated before

 

[Timo]

But that makes no sense. If Picard was the liability here, Starfleet could simply have ordered him into an escape pod, told Riker to take command, and dispatched the ship to the battlefield. Or, if the doubts were serious enough, Riker would have been commanded to imprison or kill Picard, then take the ship to battle.

It seems that Starfleet either didn't think the E-E would be useful in battle (perhaps her tests had been disappointing so far, or perhaps she had a design weakness as regarded fighting the Borg and was better kept in reserve for fighting against the Romulans), or then thought that the E-E would be okay in battle but would not be needed because there was plenty of firepower available already.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[HRHTheKING]

While Nog's leg was being blasted off, I believe Picard was going for a nice stroll with Donna Murphy.

 

[Ezri II]

Starfleet probably wouldn't have sent the Enterprise into any major battles. If the ship had gotten destroyed during the war it would have been a huge blow for many of the officers.

Yeppers it would have. I hate to have been Data when the ship made a huge blow and was destroyed only to be tossed into deep space never to be looked for as the ship was destroyed with all crew dead (starfleet viewpoint).

 

[Timo]

Yikes! That's one mean scenario. So many nasty ways in which being immortal could turn against you...

Then again, if Lore was picked up, odds are that Data wouldn't have to float out there for long, either. Apparently, those 24th century sensors are very good at picking up positronic emissions or whatnot...

Timo Saloniemi

 

[c0rnedfr0g]

But that makes no sense. If Picard was the liability here, Starfleet could simply have ordered him into an escape pod, told Riker to take command, and dispatched the ship to the battlefield. Or, if the doubts were serious enough, Riker would have been commanded to imprison or kill Picard, then take the ship to battle.

It seems that Starfleet either didn't think the E-E would be useful in battle (perhaps her tests had been disappointing so far, or perhaps she had a design weakness as regarded fighting the Borg and was better kept in reserve for fighting against the Romulans), or then thought that the E-E would be okay in battle but would not be needed because there was plenty of firepower available already.

Timo Saloniemi

Normally, i would agree. but in this case, all the FC dialogue seems to contradict this

(Geordi)..."the most advanced ship in the fleet. We should be out there"

(Picard)..."every confidence in the Enterprise and her crew...just not sure about her captain...unstable element"

 

[ALF]

Although it's not officially considered cannon, I have heard through my sources that they were on a planet full of drag queens at the time.

 

[Ezri II]

I think Councilor Troi was having ice cream when Councilor Ezri Dax was looking for Worf in the badlands.

 

[HRHTheKING]

During "It's Only A Paper Moon", while Vic was trying to help a clearly traumatised Nog, Riker was still trying to play "Nightbird"

 

[nx1701g]

While Nog's leg was being blasted off, I believe Picard was going for a nice stroll with Donna Murphy.

Couldn't work I'm afraid. Worf was on the Defiant during that in command.

 

[Timo]

Normally, i would agree. but in this case, all the FC dialogue seems to contradict this

(Geordi)..."the most advanced ship in the fleet. We should be out there"

(Picard)..."every confidence in the Enterprise and her crew...just not sure about her captain...unstable element"

So these people must be in deep denial.

Really, it would be so inexcusable to omit the E-E from the battle force if those statements were objectively true that it's easier to think that Picard is just trying to placate his friends and avoid telling LaForge that his ship isn't that special after all...

Timo Saloniemi

 

[RobertScorpio]

Officially though we have no idea what she was doing - other than Insurrection. The novels don't count (despite some of them being very good).

good point..which means they DID NOTHING.

Rob

 

[Anwar]

That's not true, it means that canonically we don't know EXACTLY what missions they had. It doesn't mean they weren't fighting in the war.

 

[LaBarre]

Anybody know? Were they involved in battles, diplomacy, patrolling, all of the above?

Perhaps they was attending 101 Grammar.

its a nite mare im told

 

[RobertScorpio]

That's not true, it means that canonically we don't know EXACTLY what missions they had. It doesn't mean they weren't fighting in the war.

Well, going on what I saw in INSURRECTION,they were doing nothing note worthy but goofing around 'out there' while Earth was getting attacked, or Betazed was attacked...noooooo...Picard was hosting a party with midgets and wearing a wig.

Sorry..I call that doing nothing....

Rob

 

[Finn]

Wow. Bumping a thread that hasn't been posted in for over a year.

 

[Anwar]

That's not true, it means that canonically we don't know EXACTLY what missions they had. It doesn't mean they weren't fighting in the war.

Well, going on what I saw in INSURRECTION,they were doing nothing note worthy but goofing around 'out there' while Earth was getting attacked, or Betazed was attacked...noooooo...Picard was hosting a party with midgets and wearing a wig.

Sorry..I call that doing nothing....

Rob

Being ORDERED to do a diplomatic meeting with some aliens (And INS was supposed to be after the Dominion War, I think) isn't much worse then Sisko and co taking a break fro war to go play baseball...

 

[RobertScorpio]

That's not true, it means that canonically we don't know EXACTLY what missions they had. It doesn't mean they weren't fighting in the war.

Well, going on what I saw in INSURRECTION,they were doing nothing note worthy but goofing around 'out there' while Earth was getting attacked, or Betazed was attacked...noooooo...Picard was hosting a party with midgets and wearing a wig.

Sorry..I call that doing nothing....

Rob

Being ORDERED to do a diplomatic meeting with some aliens (And INS was supposed to be after the Dominion War, I think) isn't much worse then Sisko and co taking a break fro war to go play baseball...

You would be surprised at what happens in the name of fun on the 'front lines' of a war. My grandfather, a WW2 vet, told me they would be playing baseball on make shift fields while making their way through Europe on their way to Germany...at least Sisko and his crew did something in the war..

Earth was attacked, the Golden Gate bridge smashed, and where was the captain of the Federation's flagship exactly? Then again, Starfleet was probably worried he'd 'defect' again, and kill thousands of federation men/women as he did during that whole Borg ordeal.

Rob