Yep. And no where in there is TOS mentioned.
Threads like these pop up every now and then and are often examples of some not even knowing what camp is.
What the most campy thing ever done on "TOS"?
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Threads like these pop up every now and then and are often examples of some not even knowing what camp is.
Perhaps it should have been broadened to be campy/cheesy/corny? There is also the matter of qualifying those moments with the times. Somebody said the Gorn costume looked campy. For the time period it was a pretty well thought out costume. If it was attempted to be used today then it would be easy to label as campy/cheesy/corny.
Gotta go with Space Hippies tonight.
It's just something that Yeoman Rand said to the Salt Vampire in the "Man Trap", but it always strikes me as campy/corny, B-science fiction movie type dialogue:
"Why don't you go chase an asteroid?"
Ugh! That's horrible!!
"Why don't you go chase an asteroid?"
Ugh! That's horrible!!
Agreed. Nothing about TOS was even remotely campy.
OK, well, I think in certain episodes they were obviously kicking back and having fun.
A Piece of the Action has been mentioned. Good example. I'm going to offer Shore Leave as another possibility, with Alice in Wonderland, Finnegan, and a damsel in distress (and that samurai for goodness sake). I, Mudd is another example that I think was brought up. The Way to Eden and Spock's Brain, too, but these are arguably less intentionally funny and campy.
There are elements of camp in these isolated cases, and perhaps in some others, as special forays outside of the norm. To state that it was never campy is a stretch.
However, I think we can generally agree that the tone of the show overall was never intended to be campy; quite the contrary.
A Piece of the Action has been mentioned. Good example. I'm going to offer Shore Leave as another possibility, with Alice in Wonderland, Finnegan, and a damsel in distress (and that samurai for goodness sake). I, Mudd is another example that I think was brought up. The Way to Eden and Spock's Brain, too, but these are arguably less intentionally funny and campy.
There are elements of camp in these isolated cases, and perhaps in some others, as special forays outside of the norm. To state that it was never campy is a stretch.
However, I think we can generally agree that the tone of the show overall was never intended to be campy; quite the contrary.
If this has been mentioned, I apologize.
But I think it's worth pointing out that the wigs that cast members wore, especially the females (but males too!), could be considered campy. Look at Rand's ridiculous wig just above. Is that not over the top, both literally and figuratively?
Also, having the Starfleet female uniform be a minidress. Well you know, I'm not complaining, but is that seriously practical? It's really flashy and extreme, and it overtly sexualizes something that need not be sexual.
These elements need not necessarily be campy, but it occurs to me that they could borderline qualify as campy, too. Comments?
But I think it's worth pointing out that the wigs that cast members wore, especially the females (but males too!), could be considered campy. Look at Rand's ridiculous wig just above. Is that not over the top, both literally and figuratively?
Also, having the Starfleet female uniform be a minidress. Well you know, I'm not complaining, but is that seriously practical? It's really flashy and extreme, and it overtly sexualizes something that need not be sexual.
These elements need not necessarily be campy, but it occurs to me that they could borderline qualify as campy, too. Comments?
Grace Lee Whitney's helmet wig was way over the top. She said it was awkward, uncomfortable, and heavily lacquered. If she would have unraveled that thing she would have looked like Rapunzel.
That's good old GR for you. He was always after Bill Theiss to show more cleavage and legs on the ST babes.
That's good old GR for you. He was always after Bill Theiss to show more cleavage and legs on the ST babes.
And you have to remember the time period: minidresses were new and exciting. Nichelle Nichols has always said that she found it empowering -- and in fact, she hemmed her costume higher than Bill Theiss.
Again, the time during which the show was made matters.
Dakota Smith
And the shorter the mini-skirt, the better GR like it.
Grace Lee Whitney was quoted as saying that the pressure from the ST producers and Bill Theiss to stay slim and trim in her costume was one of the reason she became addicted to drugs.
Then every TV show of the period would be "campy", because t'was the age of giant beehive hairdos and wigs were de riggeur.
It's true about wigs being the fashion of the time, just as hair extensions and painted nails are today. I remember my mother who was a restaurant waitress at the time, she wore a beehive wig that she kept on a disturbing little styrofoam head on her dresser when she was at home...
Surely this is a bit campy
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[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsRo-m9muFE[/yt]
^^Yes, it was. I also could never get used to seeing Abraham Lincoln in ST. It just seemed so ridiculous for him to being hanging out with my boys, Kirk and Spock.
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