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What story elements would you remove or just forget exist from canon?

Sounds very... nihilistic.

It's not nihilistic. Nihilism is the denial that meaning exists or that anything means anything or holds any value, ever. A ball is not a ball, it's just a round thing.

Rather, it is existentialist: the assertion that human beings create meaning through an act of will, and that those meanings matter. A round thing is a ball if human beings imbue it with that purpose and use it to play games.

Nihilism and existentialism are diametric opposites. The former is ultimately life-denying and encourages systems of death and violence like fascism. Existentialism is life-affirming and encourages democratic systems.
 
I never, never got the argument of 'Oh, the US/Europe isn't burning in these episodes! Thus, the Eugenics war didn't happen!'

Like...what.

The US hasn't been attacked in any real way in any real war in over two centuries, a century and a half if you count the Civil War and even that had limited damage to the North. During OTL 90s we had the Yugoslav Wars, the Central American Crisis, the Gulf War, the Rwandan Genocide, Timor Leste, and so on. The Eugenics War was never said to touch the US, or much of Europe (though it can be fitted into Yugoslavia a bit...if you want to go down that road). And even then Hungary and Austria across the way weren't burning from it.

Seeing a nice happy US in VOY and so doesn't mean squat. Hell, parts of the US could had seen a sort of Uber 90s militia movement backed by augments and most of the US wouldn't had seen it besides newspaper tabloid splashes. If some augment broke out of Area 51 and ran up to Montana and so along the rockies (there's a neat civ iv mod that goes into this) how many of us would had been affected by that, truly? And I say that as someone who ran up Kalispell way for y2k.

Keep the Eugenics war as a 90s thing. And the Dy-100s. Trek is surely alt history, they should embrace it. Not keep trying to move it around.
 
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What tone? The beigeness of TNG, or the primary colors of TOS food?​
 
Star Trek has always tried to be both.
I think Star Trek would have been better served if they had set it a few more centuries into the future. The immediate benefit was they wouldn’t be struggling to cram so much future history into a relatively short period of time. There would be more time for another Earth world war or two, a long period of slower than light travel and the establishment of Earth interstellar colonies. It would have also made more sense if the “planets of hats” weren’t weird parallel developments, but simply lost colonies that took odd turns.
 
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