What Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode should be stricken from canon?

[Sykonee]

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/\ Couldn't disagree with you more, Fascination rocks! While I thought it was reasonably enjoyable, Little Green Men could be due for a nomination based on Rom discovering the secret of time travel. Surely this would change the galaxy and make Rom a trillionaire overnight?

But he doesn't have the lobes for it. Most likely, he 'sold' the secret to the Federation, just because they happened to be the closest civilization where he made his discovery. Hence, loss-loss: the Feds take the discovery and lock it in their "Can Only Be Used In One Episode" warehouse, and since hew-mons don't use money anymore...

 

[Aubergine]

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I, too, like Fascination, but that's mostly because I think Lwaxana Troi is super hilarious. I can completely understand why most people hate it.

I wish The Emperor's New Cloak had never aired. It was too cringe-worthy for me to enjoy the campiness. Also, the MU got WAY too campy by that point.

I know MU Jake doesn't exist, as per Shattered Mirror, but they could use this opportunity to explain how the Mirror Universe manages to make people with exact DNA copies of their prime universe even when its been around for hundreds of years, such as, when a person in the prime universe is born, a mirror counterpart is created spontaneously, without help from parents if they aren't available.

They could've easily retconned an MU Jake. MU Jennifer and Ben obviously had a bad marriage, she could've gotten pregnant and been unable to face the prospect of parenting, so she left MU Jake in the custody of her own parents or something. She could deliberately or unconsciously block this memory. Or, she could be under the mistaken impression that MU Jake is dead. Lots of ways!

 

[Kelso]

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None of them. Perhaps the fair weather fans should be stricken from fandom, though.

 

[Aubergine]

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Hey, if we didn't care deeply about the show, we wouldn't bother to critique it.

 

[DevilEyes]

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Fascinaton -what were the writers smoking that week?

"everyone falls madly out of character, er, I mean in love, with all the wrong people. hilarity ensues!!

yeah, no, wrong. please make me forget that one!

ITA - as I've already made clear on this and another threads, I despise Fascination. It's like bad fanfiction that even its author isn't taking seriously.

 

[Jbarney]

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Got to be all of the parallel universise episodes .They were a waste and ones I always skip.

While I am not sure I would strike them, I would have to agree to some degree that the MU stories are not exactly the best trek out there. Frankly, I don't find them very engaging and I am surprised some fans like them so much.

 

[flemm]

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None. Some don't get rewatched much, though

I'm not sure it's a matter of "easy", it's just that it didn't make sense for Jadzia to behave like that. The romance was too quick and insufficiently plausible for us to believe that someone with all her life experience was going to abandon everything in her life for this guy.

While Meridian is not a good episode, I see it as an attempt to delve into the kind of decision a being with many lifetimes of experience might make. There would be an understandable thirst for novelty there, a desire to add something new and remarkable to the symbiote's memory pool. At times I guess that desire for a revelatory new experience might be a joined Trill's overriding imperative.

That said, for whatever reason, the whole idea of a symbiotic lifeform with multiple lives' experience never really turns out to be that interesting. I think you can sense the writers' frustration at times, and this episode is an example of that: there is a desire for Dax to be different from everybody else, more daring and adventuresome, but it never really happens. Her decision just seems bizarre and insufficiently motivated.

Then of course there are the usual problems with one-episode romances and the inevitable reset button. Isn't the B story of this ep relatively entertaining, though, or am I confusing it with another?

 

[Michael]

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What Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode should be stricken from canon?

None, really.

 

[Hofner]

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I'd strike "What You Leave Behind" from canon.

No, not because I hate the ep; it's to be nice to the pro-Dominion folks. You guys would be able to fantasize the Dominion actually wins the war, destroys the Federation and allies, lays waste to the entire Alpha Quadrant and kills everyone..

Now theeere's a happy ending for the pro-Dominion people!

Robert

 

[Liet]

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Gotta be "Let He Who Is Without Sin . . ." The way Worf is written and the actions Worf takes in the episode are utterly unforgivable, as is Jadzia's forgiving attitude thereto. Sometimes characters take questionable actions, but there's no questionability involved here. Worf should have, without question, been rotting in a penal colony for a very long time after the events of "Let He Who Is Without Sin . . ."

 

[Trek Survivor]

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I wouldn't strike any particular episode, but I'd substantially revised seasons six and seven. After all the amazing work done in season 4 and 5, the last two years just took the series into a very bad state it never recovered from IMHO.

 

[StarryEyed]

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/\ Little Green Men could be due for a nomination based on Rom discovering the secret of time travel. Surely this would change the galaxy and make Rom a trillionaire overnight?

I think you might have something there. Rom went back in time and caught Zek at a time where he knew he could get to him (maybe when he first visited the station) and somehow screwed with his brain. That's why he took up with Moogie, instituted reforms and made Rom Gand Nagus.

 

[Danny99]

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Most Ferengi episodes.

Some were alright in and of themselves, but how many were we subjected to over seven seasons?

I was never interested in the Ferengi anyways...TNG had tossed them on the "crap" pile before the 80's ended.

Why the writers felt we needed so much Ferengi when there was so much else in the tapestry of the show to be explored and expanded upon, I'll never understand.

You can do "fluff" episodes without an annoyingly cliched race being dropped into predictable situations.

FINALLY someone agrees with me!

Quark worked as a character within the confines of DS9 with his scheming, his interactions with Odo etc.

Nog worked fine as a character within the confines of DS9 with his character growth from a child thief to a Starfleet lieutenant.

Rom was great comic relief with his random flashes of brilliance within stupidity.

But as soon as you take them off DS9 or put other Ferengi on DS9 and attempt comedy, they are just horrid.

 

[Bones2]

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^
I don't care for most Ferengi episodes, but I think The Magnificent Ferengi was great.

 

[Pemmer Harge]

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/\ And The House of Quark.

 

[Bones2]

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Ah yes. Though I don't really view that as a Ferengi episode, rather as a Quark episode. If you get what I mean.

 

[Red Ranger]

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Only two come to mind. If Wishes Were Horses (geez, I want that hour back!) and that horrific Risa ep with the 24th century morality freaks -- Let He Who Is Without Sin or whatever it's called (I'm too lazy to look it up, it sucks that bad). Feel free to correct me on that ep name! -- RR

 

[Mr. Scott]

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The Risa episode was the worst episode of the entire series, bar none. That writer should of been fired and kicked in the balls.

 

[Michael]

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That writer should of been fired and kicked in the balls.

Who would have been the new executive producer then?

 

[Bones2]

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That writer should of been fired and kicked in the balls.

Who would have been the new executive producer then?

Someone who wouldn't go out of their way to ruin Dukat as a character.