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What really happened to Star Trek

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I've read Gep's thread and does articulate well that he felt a malaise. But the video i posted actually puts the finger on where the malaise comes from.

Then do us all a favor and write it down in a coherent fashion using paragraphs and punctuation. No one is going to listen to your podcast. Seriously.
 
It i were to write it down, i'd create a thread that asks people to post their observations of neo-con (or dystopic) references in the movie. How phasers looked like tasers, etc. It could be as interesting as with the movie Watchmen, where people posted the fact that the movie 1984 was playing on Ozymandias' screen and so on.
 
Hear all about in this shocking, tell-all, no-holds-barred video.

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Not only is this unintelligible drivel, it's apparent to me you have an almost 12 year old perspective on life. I'm sorry the quarterback stole your lunch money and your girl, but get over it.
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Since everything - including Star Trek - has been turned upside down, it would make sense that a video that tells it like it is be "the worst thread ever".
 
I'm debating whether or not to start spamming this thread to get it closed while taking a hit for the team...or walking away...
 
So anything that does not depict a perfect universe is not Star Trek? Then I guess there's no such thing as Star Trek.

Deep Space 9 depicted a less-then-perfect Star Trek universe, one where everyone was flawed, including the Federation. Does that make it not-Star Trek? I don't think so. In fact, I think it epitomizes what Star Trek is really about, and that goes for the new movie as well.

Star Trek was always about people overcoming their differences (background, race, religion, sex, you name it) to work together for a better future. Where is that missing from the new movie? Kirk and Spock came from different backgrounds and definitely clashed, but by movie's end, you could already see the birth of their great friendship. And why? Because they overcame their differences to work together.

If you ask me, there was no dystopia depicted. It was a universe with flawed, human characters. What's wrong with that? So in the future, everyone will be perfect and we'll all stand together in one big circle, holding hands and singing "kumbayah"? We didn't even get that in TOS! There was plenty of drama and conflict, because without it, how can we better ourselves? We better ourselves through conflict because it causes us to become better then who we are.

I don't know what movie you watched, but I watched Star Trek, and its title was perfect.
 
its Star Trek, maybe not the Trek we grew up with, but its Star Trek and the fact is none of the characters or the universe were perfect, they were all totally capable of making errors
 
It's true about DS9. What we're seeing here is not simply imperfect people but a somewhat incremental leaning toward a dystopia. As said in the video, when things got bad with Enterprise, instead of coming back they jumped all the way to the other side.

Incrementalism is the frog analogy. If you boil a frog too quickly, it jumps out... but if you slowly raise the temperature, the frog will boil to death without ever moving out.
 
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