Unless one cannot enter the Nexus deliberately, Soren's plan had to be convoluted so as to fool the Nexus into not realising it was being redirected to him
From Generations:
Firstly, it appears that the crew of transport vessels were not "in on" any plans to encounter the energy ribbon since they sent out the distress call.
Secondly, are any El-Aurians, namely Soran, aware of the Nexus and plan to enter it (such as taking over the transport's navigation system). Or, is this Soran's first accidental experience with it, and since then, he started plans to re-enter it. I think this later case.
Thirdly, the energy ribbon creates extreme gravitational distortion that will eventually destroy any space vessel, so, there is only a chance that the ribbon absorbs you into the Nexus. Did all/any of the passengers of the first transport ship make it into the Nexus before the ship got destroyed? Soran doesn't know.
Fourly, after almost a century of planning, Soran executes his plan to divert the energy ribbon to a spot on a planet so that he has 100% chance to enter the Nexus. His plan, which is actually correct: a planet location is "safe" from the gravitational distortion because of its large gravitational mass. YMMV
But the Enterprise-B was trying to escape the Nexus, they didn't think of it as a doorway to a 'Heaven-like Realm'.
They just thought it was a Energy Ribbon that caused problems, so they were trying to escape it after getting close enough to beam out the survivors.
Trying to enter the eye of the storm is a different matter from trying to escape the effects of the storm after getting close to rescue others on a sinking vessel.
But most people aren't crazy enough to enter the eye of a storm, much less enter any storm.
If the energy tendrils would rip you apart, wouldn't it have ripped Soran apart as well?
He literally came in direct contact with the on-coming cloud side of the Nexus.
The Energy Ribbon flew right through him along with Picard & dragged them both into the Nexus.
Or is it random luck that you don't get struck by a energy tendril?
Because that what it seems like to me.
Soran is messing around in the equivalent of a on-coming thunder storm and hopes he doesn't get struck by lightning.
Soran & Guinan would've entered into the Nexus if they weren't beamed away at the last second.
Kirk got sucked into the nexus after the energy tendrils ripped apart the hull on that section of the Enterprise-B.
Soran & Picard got sucked into it just fine on the first try on Veridian 3.
So while it's risky, the biggest risk seems to be avoiding getting struck by the random energy tendrils.
Basically it seems to be the equivalent of trying to avoid getting struck by lightning in a on-coming thunder storm.
Hope for luck, pray that you don't get hit.
If you do, hope that you survive, and we know there have been IRL survivors from getting hit by a lightning strike.
Some interesting fun facts about lightning strikes according to the CDC:
- 90% of people survive lightning strikes.
- You have < 1 in a Million chance of getting hit.
- The record for most lightning strikes in a lifetime is 7.
- From 2006 through 2021, there were 444 lightning strike deaths in the United States. (NOTE: that gives you a perspective on how many people get struck by lightning & survives)
- Males are four times more likely than females to be struck by lightning.
- The average age of a person struck by lightning is 37 years.
- About one-third of lightning injuries occur indoors.
Soran's initial plan of entry seemed to work when the Nexus enveloped both him & Picard.
Soran & Guinan would've entered the Nexus initially back in the day if they weren't beamed out at the last minute.
Kirk seemed to enter by luck after getting sucked into the vacuum near it after the energy tendril ripped apart the hull on the Enterprise-B where he was working to modify the deflector.
Who knows how many more of the refugees on that vessel got into the Nexus on the first attempt.
When the Enterprise-B beamed people out, they only managed to save 47 / 150 people.
Guinan & Soran are the only ones who managed to remember that they were in a 'Heaven-like realm' inside due to the last minute beam out.
So it seems like entering the Nexus can be a deliberate choice; if you manage to survive all the hazards that comes with it:
- like the random energy tendrils emanating from the Energy Ribbon
- the gravimetric field that comes with the Energy Ribbon.
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So either fly into the ribbon and it's dumb luck if you end up in the Nexus or just die, or the Nexus has a will of its own and doesn't let people purposefully enter it. The Nexus being some form of intelligence wouldn't be entirely off brand.
Or the 3rd option, you miss for whatever reason & you fly right by it, very close, but not close enough.
Your vessel might be damaged, might not be, who knows.
Luck of the dice roll.
If it has a will, it hasn't shown itself yet.
Despite the Nexus being a Temporal Energy Ribbon, it's not like the Guardian of Forever.
The dang thing doesn't speak to you or communicate with you in any method.
The Nexus just crosses our Milky Way Galaxy every 39.1 years on it's regular path, wherever that leads to.
True, but until it shows that intelligence, I'll take the results that we see at face value.
It's already challenging enough to get into the dang thing, no need to make it harder.
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What about my crazy idea about the Nexus origins?
It's a similar idea to the Beta Canon origins of the Nexus.
It's about as valid as the origin being a child Q creating it in a "random idea" that he more or less left alone to run rampant after he got bored with it.
Not realising that there are Temporal Energy effects or the Heaven-like existence inside.
This is hard, unadulterated, totally in my head, based on nothing, head-canon:
Starfleet went through a period in the 25th and 26th Centuries where it dropped letter suffixes for new ships called Enterprise. After the NCC-1701-I, the next Enterprise was the NCC-101701. This continues for the next few Enterprises, until some Starfleet Admiral decides they want to bring back the letters, restore the 1701 legacy, and call the next Enterprise the Enterprise-J: NCC-1701-J.
It's getting pretty claustrophobic between the Enterprise-G and the Enterprise-J, and with how fast they go through Enterprises, having Enterprises with different registry numbers for a little while is a good way to have more Enterprises without getting to the Enterprise-J too quickly.
That killed some time.
Starfleet went through a period in the 25th and 26th Centuries where it dropped letter suffixes for new ships called Enterprise. After the NCC-1701-I, the next Enterprise was the NCC-101701. This continues for the next few Enterprises, until some Starfleet Admiral decides they want to bring back the letters, restore the 1701 legacy, and call the next Enterprise the Enterprise-J: NCC-1701-J.
It's getting pretty claustrophobic between the Enterprise-G and the Enterprise-J, and with how fast they go through Enterprises, having Enterprises with different registry numbers for a little while is a good way to have more Enterprises without getting to the Enterprise-J too quickly.
That killed some time.
I can see that.
I can also see Starfleet not using the name Enterprise at all for a long time, simply as a matter of respect. It might also explain why there was about 80 years between Archer's Enterprise and NCC-1701... Starfleet had such a high reverence for his accomplishments that a new one wouldn't be commissioned until after his death.
Personally I think they'd skip letter I, as well as O, Q, S, X, and Z. Those letters are typically not used in drawing view titles (i.e. View A or Section B-B), and are also not used in drawing revision letters. They're either too similar to numbers, each other, or are reserved for other uses (X).
I consider anything set after the end of Star Trek Deep Space 9 as an alternate Universe, rather than the prime timeline.
I confess: I had completely forgotten that I established that.
Hey, I wrote those books nearly thirty years ago.
So, when Voyager entered the starless region of space in "Night" (S5E1), they entered an alternate universe?
That occured at the beginning of DS9 season 7.So, when Voyager entered the starless region of space in "Night" (S5E1), they entered an alternate universe?
I like it as a concept, it sounds very plausible, a very "Q-like" behavior for when they're a child.I confess: I had completely forgotten that I established that.
Hey, I wrote those books nearly thirty years ago.
Especially given with how "Q Junior" behaved as a young brat.
That fits in-line with how they would behave.
Especially if as a infant, "Q Junior" was able to knock around planetary orbits for fun.
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So, when Voyager entered the starless region of space in "Night" (S5E1), they entered an alternate universe?
Equinox, but yes that doesn’t make sense.
And I guess Picard was an alternate universe as well?
D'OH! (Misread the years!)
Oh we really need an Enterprise Q
Equinox, but yes that doesn’t make sense.
And I guess Picard was an alternate universe as well?
Don't feed the trolls.
I’m not sure who you’re referring to as a troll, but let’s not do that please.
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