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What is the age of the Enterprise (NCC-1701)?

Isn't that the whole point of the New Testament? "Ignore all that crazy fire and brimstone crap, it's all about peace and love man." The trouble is, too many people agree with the fire and brimstone stuff, as it appeals to base human nature.

So the Lord went to some universal anger management classes? :wtf:
The whole point is that the stories in the bible have nothing to do with the creator of ALL THAT IS. But...that's a whole other thread. :D
 
...My geriatrician tells me standing is good for my spine. In moderation.

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Timo Saloniemi
 
It wasn't Cartwright, it was Admiral Morrow.

And he just misspoke. Or he was specifically referring to the "refit" version of the ship.

Kor
Agree, the 1701-Refit is stated as "almost twenty years old". Although, it still involves rounding up since it is only about a dozen years old. :biggrin:
 
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Agree, the 1701-Refit is stated as "almost twenty years old". Although, it is still involves rounding up since it is only about a dozen years old. :biggrin:

Morrow is from a colony on Venus. 12 Earth years is approximately 20 Venusian years... :p
 
Agree, the 1701-Refit is stated as "almost twenty years old". Although, it is still involves rounding up since it is only about a dozen years old. :biggrin:
I'm sure the line was a reference to the age of the ship based on the show starting 1966 and the film being released in 1982. Which of course discounts the age of the ship as established in the Cage,making the ship over 30! Unless the ship seen in the Cage is not the same Enterprise we see in TOS. :eek: Which might account for certain differences!
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I'm sure it was nothing more than the writers taking Kirk's line in TWOK about not having seen Khan in 15 years, and adding five more years for the original five-year mission, and completely forgetting about Pike, much less April.
 
I'm sure the line was a reference to the age of the ship based on the show starting 1966 and the film being released in 1982!
But that makes no sense. Why would he go by out-of-universe time counts (we know they don't convert to Star Trek time)?

Morrow is from a colony on Venus. 12 Earth years is approximately 20 Venusian years... :p
How do you know he is from a colony on Venus?

Math is harrrrrd.
Not for me. If you need help, just ask. I might even say yes (mind blown).

@PhaserLightShow
 
It was a throwaway line from a mediocre movie. Let's just forget about it already.

Kor
Mediocre in your opinion. And I like Star Trek to be consistent (why I open threads such as this and the "Difference Between Holodeck and Holosuite), so I attempt to reconcile what seems incorrect. I am looking for justification of what Admiral Morrow said.

@PhaserLightShow
 
Mediocre in your opinion. And I like Star Trek to be consistent (why I open threads such as this and the "Difference Between Holodeck and Holosuite), so I attempt to reconcile what seems incorrect. I am looking for justification of what Admiral Morrow said.

@PhaserLightShow
In fairness, loads of suggestions have been given! But there will never be one that can satisfy you because you have said you won't accept he simply made a mistake.
 
In fairness, loads of suggestions have been given! But there will never be one that can satisfy you because you have said you won't accept he simply made a mistake.
He made have made a mistake. That is fair. Or rather, it would be, if he were a civilian. But he is a highly trained Starfleet Admiral (the C-in-C). He shouldn't make a mistake of more than 13 years.

@PhaserLightShow
 
He made have made a mistake. That is fair. Or rather, it would be, if he were a civilian. But he is a highly trained Starfleet Admiral (the C-in-C). He shouldn't make a mistake of more than 13 years.

@PhaserLightShow
Sorry, should say he might have made a mistake.

He might have made a mistake. That is fair. Or rather, it would be, if he were a civilian. But he is a highly trained Starfleet Admiral (the C-in-C). He shouldn't make a mistake of more than 13 years.

@PhaserLightShow

@PhaserLightShow
 
We all make mistakes, I'm sure you do as well.

The alternative is that he didn't make a mistake, and the Enterprise is, indeed, twenty years old as of 2285. But that doesn't fit with the history established in The Menagerie, or Khan's fifteen year exile.

Why not just accept it was a mistake, both in-universe, and in real life?
 
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