I know there have been more or less non-serious responses to this kind of topic but I'm really wondering why a Romulan was chosen as a villain that has such a gripe with Kirk that he's willing to travel back in time to try and kill his parents before he's even born? Kirk has had a ton more run-ins with the Klingons than the Romulans. This is probably the one plot point that has been so far glazed over and no one has seemed to really catch it or talk about it. Why does a Romulan in the 24th century want to go to the 23rd century to kill Kirk?
What is Nero's beef with Kirk?
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First of all:
Secondy, are we even sure that Nero's purpose for traveling back in time is to kill Kirk's parents, even though that was the [rumored] result?
Assuming the plot rumor about Nero killing Kirk's parents (or at least his father) is correct, how do we know that these specific deaths were premeditation on Nero's part? Perhaps George Kirk's death is just the "collateral damage" of some otherwise unconnected scheme of Nero.
I guess what I am saying is:
By the way, Happy Holidays to all of those celebrating.
First of all:
Secondy, are we even sure that Nero's purpose for traveling back in time is to kill Kirk's parents, even though that was the [rumored] result?
Assuming the plot rumor about Nero killing Kirk's parents (or at least his father) is correct, how do we know that these specific deaths were premeditation on Nero's part? Perhaps George Kirk's death is just the "collateral damage" of some otherwise unconnected scheme of Nero.
I guess what I am saying is:
By the way, Happy Holidays to all of those celebrating.
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When Kirk destroyed that Romulan ship in "Balance of Terror", a piece of it tumbled through space, for the next 97 years, all the way back to Romulus, where it plunged through the atmosphere and promptly squashed Nero's space puppy.
An alternate title might be "Star Trek: The Wrath of Fifi".
An alternate title might be "Star Trek: The Wrath of Fifi".
Presumably, without Kirk, V'Ger and/or the Cetacean Probe (two probably well-known historical events even among some 24th-century Romulans) destroy Earth. Nero need not destroy Earth itself when he can just kill the guy who saved it so many times.
That's my take. I'm hoping that Nero is somewhere between reckless and psychotic, and he's just running around fucking shit up because he can. Sort of like Doomsday in the Superman comics (before they overexplained and ruined his origin).
It just makes no sense for him to go all the way back to Kirk's time and try to eliminate him. Even if he is somehow pissed about something Kirk has done, eliminating Kirk would have so many unpredictable effects by Nero's time, that no reasonable man would try it.
There could be an emotional connection to Kirk, like with Khan, but Nero seems too remote from Kirk, time-wise.
So, I hope he's just reckless, like Lobo, or just plain old frakkin' crazy.
We know from the trailer that VULCAN rather then Earth is assaulted by Nero's "space squid", that in and of itself tells us alot about his presumed motives...
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Here's my guess, without seeing the movie:
Kirk= hot
Nero= fugly
I understand that this situation tends to make some men angry and resentful.
Kirk= hot
Nero= fugly
I understand that this situation tends to make some men angry and resentful.
I'm guessing Nero does not have a premeditated plan to kill Kirk, it's just collateral damage that changes the timeline, especially when you consider how Nero's ship goes back in time and where it first ends up, I'm betting that George Kirk on the USS Kelvin is just a coincidence.
Thus far, this is probably the best theory that takes what little we know into account and offers an explanation. I too, have wondered what Nero's boggle with Kirk is, and the fact of the matter is, we really don't know that he's out to get Kirk.
Right here we have one of those big unknowns that makes it worth seeing the movie.
What the hell is Nero trying to accomplish? We know he attacks the Kelvin, then 20 years later attacks and trys to destroy planet Vulcan. Seems like severe overkill if his motive is simply to kill Kirk and/or Spock.
So, despite all the ranting so far, the simple fact is...we have no idea what this movie is about. One more reason to watch it come may.
What the hell is Nero trying to accomplish? We know he attacks the Kelvin, then 20 years later attacks and trys to destroy planet Vulcan. Seems like severe overkill if his motive is simply to kill Kirk and/or Spock.
So, despite all the ranting so far, the simple fact is...we have no idea what this movie is about. One more reason to watch it come may.
Agreed. That, and just how much the timeline gets altered and more importantly, does it stay that way at the end of the film.
Basically, we know squat at this point.
Nero's beef is due to the fact that Vulcan and Romulus are very close to reunification. Nero is a rogue faction of romulus who beleives that this reunification will destroy the romulans, and is not acting on behalf of the romulan government. As Spock (from that TNG ep) is pretty much directly responsible for reunification Nero has it in for him. By killing kirk as well he has killed the man responsible for alot of the recent political history of the federation. Nero beleives that by killing kirk, romulans would become the supreme power of the alpha quadrant. One of Neros aids early on in the movie asks why they do not attack archer instead, Nero says that archer was responsible for a lot of the militarization of romulas before during and after the romulan war, and would change romulan history too much.
Wait a minute, now Nero has a beef with Captain Robau?
To hell with these "evil genius" and "grand plan" plots. I, too hope Nero is doing these things without a lot of thought about the consequences. Pure mayhem. Pure badass. Kirk to Nero, "What are you rebelling against?" Nero, "Whadda ya got?"
"Awww, forget about your theories! That guy is on the way to the heart of our galaxy! What'er ya gonna do about it!!!!?"
Based on this logic, I just loaded up my Netflix queue with 50,000 movies.
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