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What is CURRENTLY Being Done...?

thedude

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So I spent some time searching through the forums today, and I found some older posts, but nothing really concise about what fans are currently doing to support the return of Enterprise, whether that be in a new run on a network, in sydication, as an animated series, direct to DVD or on the big screen.

I wanted to create a new thread so we could all get together and share some of the options that are out there for making this a reality. I know the chances for a revival are slim, but with the success of the new movie, Trek interest is at it's highest peak since the launch of TNG in the mid-late 80's. There is no time like the present to revisist the movement from after the series' cancellation, as well as talk about some of the other efforts that are still out there and how we can all pitch in to help. Plus no one has ever come out and said "that will never happen."

This thread isn't about what you'd like to see in the 5th season/Direct-to-DVD (there are PLENTY of other threads about that you can find with a simple search), but it is about what resources are available to fans and how we all can help.

Here's what I've found:

1.) Save Enterprise. This site is good, but seems to have been forgotten and hasn't received any updates since the end of 2007. Anyone know who is running the site? It could use some updated info.

2.) The Petition. This is the Direct-to-DVD petition, currently with over 21,200 signatures. Sign it, if you already haven't.

3.) YouTube. There are a number of videos dedicated to saving Enterprise. New opening themes, promotional videos for the various petitions, and much more. There's some very cool stuff.

4.) Bjo Trimble. She did it a few times before... wonder what she's up to these days? Here's a great "How To" on saving Trek.

I know this isn't much, but it's a start. Considering the new movie was shot on an estimated budget of $150 million US and has already grossed over twice that (and then some) worldwide, Paramount clearly has the funds available to invest in other projects. It's going to be 2 years until we get a follow-up film, which will be equally (if not even more) profitable. Why not have a series or Direct-to-DVD in the meantime that can be shot on a smaller budget ($20-30 million would do it, including salaries for the cast/crew, advertising, and publication) and I'm sure would make itself up in revenue from the newly peaked interest in Trek worldwide. Plus it ensures that the brand is fresh in fans mind, and gives Paramount a launching point for pushing easy advertising for the new film and other science fiction/fantasy ventures they have going on.

It should also be worth noting, that Enterprise hasn't been seen in a while, and could easily be picked up by Spike or Sci-fi (soon to be SyFy, how dumb is that?) and effectively get people reinterested in that series, toting it as the only "true" remaining Trek series in-line with the new films. Advertise it as the "beginning" of Capt. Kirk's adventure, as ENT was originally advertised, but now you'll be appealing to a ton of new fans that may have no idea the series even existed.

Anyway, those are my thoughts, please feel free to chime in a provide any other info you all might have. Remember, it only took 1 fan to save TOS... so if there's any truth to the adage "there's strength in numbers" we've got to be able to make a difference.
 
I wanted to create a new thread so we could all get together and share some of the options that are out there for making this a reality. I know the chances for a revival are slim, but with the success of the new movie, Trek interest is at it's highest peak since the launch of TNG in the mid-late 80's. There is no time like the present to revisist the movement from after the series' cancellation, as well as talk about some of the other efforts that are still out there and how we can all pitch in to help. Plus no one has ever come out and said "that will never happen."

The chances for revival are non-existant. They auctioned off most of the sets and destroyed all the rest. I think that's a big 'fuck you' to the fans and a much clearer answer than saying 'it will never happen'.
Plus, the show is generally held in low regard, even among Trek fans. So they'd have to rebuild all the sets for a series that wasn't very successful. Not gonna happen.

Sorry for being so blunt, but I personally believe people should devote their time and resources to a more worthwhile cause. :)
 
As usual I find it difficult to disagree with Count Zero, for everything she says is true. CBS have been in overall control of Star Trek since 2006 (before that in my opinion, since its President - Leslie Moonves axed ENT). Then they auctioned off... or even worse, had a bulldozer flatten left over sets. See the pictures. If you go online to the personal blogs of the likes of Doug Drexler and John Eaves, you'll discover they were very proud of their work on the show.

It's fair to say I'm probably the lone nutter left by now, still sending off DVDs, letters and postcards to various studio and executive addresses. I would love to bring together fans to shout out for a decent Enterprise reunion. But it's tricky and don't exactly want to become a hate figure like Tim Brazeal, for offering false hope.

The campaign needs a home online really and I'd be willing to offer help. But a project like this needs technical ability and my skills are basic to put it mildly. I recently tried to get back the domain name SaveEnterprise.com but have been unsuccessful. It was owned on Trekunited's behalf by Mr. Brazeal. It's a long story but he fell from grace during a disasterously organised convention and isn't on speaking terms with that site's Executive Staff. It all has nothing to do with Enterprise of course, but it certainly harmed our reputation.

At the moment, its more about creating awareness for the show really. Trying to turn around the perception of Enterprise as the poor cousin of the franchise. Depending on whether you liked it or not, the cancellation was uncalled for back in 2005 and there were other show happily continuing with fewer viewers, surviving on DVD sales and other merchandising deals. All that leads me to conclude the decision to end had a personal motive somewhere along the line. The new film has undoubtedly proved useful to all incarnations of Star Trek, but for the time being at least, it's all about Kirk and Spock and will remain so for the foreseeable future... unless CBS somehow see the dollar signs, sorry I mean light.

I had the crazy notion of passing out a Save Enterprise DVD free of charge, in hopes it might start a chain of being backed up. Each fan who knows somebody else into Star Trek, hands on the old disc or makes a copy of the parts they like. Since it only contains advertisements, then that's a exploiting a grey area. Doing the studios job of promotion and publicity, inviting others to seek out officially produced Enteprise products, on DVD or the novels published by Pocket Books. Maybe even create the urge from others to write to the studio demanding more... (and boy, is more possible, given the loose ends... Future Guy's identity, the Romulan War, Shran's fate, addressing Trip's so-called death and more besides). The other outlet would be eBay, making sure a "Buy It Now" amount goes straight to a charity like the Red Cross, ensuring no profit is made from copyrighted material.
 
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I don't think the show has any chance of ever coming back. None of the past series do. Itsawrap has made a fortune selling off everything that can be found from the last four series on ebay. I don't think we will even see another movie from any of the series. Any new release will involve the latest movie and cast, or something totally fresh.

On the plus side, Enterprise is more popular now than ever. SciFi Network and HD Network finally gave the series national exposure. There was enough of an absence that people who were burned out on the massave amount of Trek is ready to watch again. Most of the past haters have faded away and a lot of new fans are taking their places. It is no longer the least liked series and some of the cast are major draws at conventions.
 
It should also be worth noting, that Enterprise hasn't been seen in a while, and could easily be picked up by Spike or Sci-fi (soon to be SyFy, how dumb is that?) and effectively get people reinterested in that series, .
Urm...Syfy has run ENT steadily for the last couple of years...weekday airings plus Tuesday primetime 3 ep blocks which ceased a few weeks ago as they head towards the big name rebrand.:eek: Repeats will return on a weekly basis on Fridays at 7pmEST/6 Central, starting July 24. :alienblush:
 
I don't think the show has any chance of ever coming back. None of the past series do. Itsawrap has made a fortune selling off everything that can be found from the last four series on ebay. I don't think we will even see another movie from any of the series. Any new release will involve the latest movie and cast, or something totally fresh.

On the plus side, Enterprise is more popular now than ever. SciFi Network and HD Network finally gave the series national exposure. There was enough of an absence that people who were burned out on the massave amount of Trek is ready to watch again. Most of the past haters have faded away and a lot of new fans are taking their places. It is no longer the least liked series and some of the cast are major draws at conventions.

maybe... but that cost nothing to try....
 
Depending on whether you liked it or not, the cancellation was uncalled for back in 2005 and there were other show happily continuing with fewer viewers, surviving on DVD sales and other merchandising deals. All that leads me to conclude the decision to end had a personal motive somewhere along the line.

Well, the mindless destruction of the remaining sets certainly screams personal motive, but one shouldn't forget that Enterprise was a quite expensive show and therefore needed more viewers than other shows that are cheaper to produce.

The new film has undoubtedly proved useful to all incarnations of Star Trek, but for the time being at least, it's all about Kirk and Spock and will remain so for the foreseeable future... unless CBS somehow see the dollar signs, sorry I mean light.

That's true but I think that CBS would try to cash in on the new movie, so any series would be connected to that.

I had the crazy notion of passing out a Save Enterprise DVD free of charge, in hopes it might start a chain of being backed up. Each fan who knows somebody else into Star Trek, hands on the old disc or makes a copy of the parts they like. Since it only contains advertisements, then that's a exploiting a grey area, inviting others to seek out officially produced Enteprise products, on DVD or the novels published by Pocket Books. Maybe create the urge from others to write to the studio.

I kinda like the idea. But I'm not sure the problem is people not knowing about Enterprise. All the Trek fans I know in real life didn't really like the show (to put it mildly). While the hate it originally caught when it was still on air has decreased I doubt it'll ever get popular.

The other outlet would be eBay, making sure a "Buy It Now" amount goes straight to a charity like the Red Cross, ensuring no profit is made from copyrighted material.

I would strongly advise against that. It's going to get you into legal trouble, I'm afraid. (It's silly but that's the state of copyright laws.)

^ Hehe, I don't see a link to the petition in Chris' sig... :D

You're right. I must apologise. I thought the 'Enterprise Direct-To-DVD' link in his sig would lead to the petition. Well, it was nice to hear Scott Bakula making the "These are the voyages.." speech instead. I always fancied his unusual delivery.
 
^ Hehe, I don't see a link to the petition in Chris' sig... :D
You're right. I must apologise. I thought the 'Enterprise Direct-To-DVD' link in his sig would lead to the petition. Well, it was nice to hear Scott Bakula making the "These are the voyages.." speech instead. I always fancied his unusual delivery.
I used to plug the petition and it's still active. But in recent years, I've distanced myself from it. For one thing, the wording is tied to doing an Enterprise DVD movie for the 40th Anniversary and well, that came and went.. celebrated with the all the enthusiasm of a damp squib. So although the sentiment for wanting more ENT is there, it's hilariously out-of-date. Futurama, Family Guy, Stargate, BSG... they've had their DVD spin-offs and continue to do so. I just haven't got the heart to kill it, that's all. At the time, I printed out a full list of something like 30,000 or so names and addresses, mailing them to three locations, CBS-Paramount-Viacom. Each in a fancy custom made box with all the trimmings. All for nothing... not that I didn't enjoy my sparetime effort put into crafting it.

It wouldn't surprise me if several more online petitions have cropped up since then. There were many beforehand during the cancellation announcement following February 2nd 2005.
 
Well, it was nice to hear Scott Bakula making the "These are the voyages.."
wat

[oh, the vid... :alienblush:... You had me there for a moment... :lol:
BTW, for future reference, its not the "These are the voyages.." speach, its "Space: The Final Frontier..." speach! :vulcan::devil:]

:lol:
 
I'd love to see ENT come back but the current atmosphere makes it unlikely. Before CBS starts seriously thinking about another Trek series, they'll probably want to see how Star Trek XII does. I also figure that the live action Star Wars series might spur CBS on to action, assuming that series does well too. Even if the two above productions do well, is CBS going to revisit a past series or create one that's more inline with nuTrek? Time will tell.
 
Well, since Brian Fuller is dying to do a new Trek series in the spirit of Star Trek XI (he said he loved the aesthetic of the movie, and would be thrilled to do a new show together with JJ and the gang), its a safe bet that this (still hypothetical) new show would be set in the post Trek XI era, and of course it's alternate reality.
 
I guess my response to everyone saying it won't happen, was ENT was shelved prior to a Star Trek iteration pulling in $250,000,000 in the US... eclipsing anything any other Trek movie has ever done and breathing new life into the brand and franchise and exposing a whole new generation of fans to the brand.

Les Moonves is a proven businessman, that is for sure... if he's as money hungry as I think he is, than now is a perfect time to get a filler series (ENT take 2) in production and on the air as soon as possible.

The major advantage for a relaunch, is that you already have everything done... the cast is assembled (and I'm assume they'd be chomping at the bit to come back), the production crew has a proven track record, and it would take a matter of weeks to get sets rebuilt. Plus, with CGI being as cheap as it is these days, it would be a pretty quick and cost effective run.

As I said in my original post, not only does this make the fans of the original ENT happy (and bring them back to a Paramount product) but it keeps the Star Trek brand fresh in new fans eyes and gives Paramount a launching pad for advertisement, branding, and exposure of additional Paramount/CBS products Trek fans may not already be exposed to. In my opinion, this makes great business sense and if they can get it out within 8-12 months gives Paramount a huge market to capitalize on... and that's something Moonves and CBS et. al. would easily respond to and understand.
 
Well, it was nice to hear Scott Bakula making the "These are the voyages.."
wat

[oh, the vid... :alienblush:... You had me there for a moment... :lol:
BTW, for future reference, its not the "These are the voyages.." speach, its "Space: The Final Frontier..." speach! :vulcan::devil:]

:lol:

It felt funny typing that and I suspected it might cause misunderstandings. So sorry!
Or maybe I saw the uncut version of TATV, where right before Acher's speech at the founding ceremony we don't hear, "Computer, end franchise... uh... program." ;)
 
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