What if the JJ timeline ends up as the parallel universe in Mirror Mirror?

[drew]

Starfleet Command could get taken over by some dictator in this alt timeline who ends up capturing and somehow controlling the minds of Kirk and co. Their minds could first be emptied by a device like the one in "Dagger Of The Mind," after which they're brainwashed and retrained. I could see Spock holding out in the device long enough to grow a goatee b4 his mind finally caves, lol, right at the end of the last movie.

That would be a somewhat sad end to the JJ series and I don't expect so much fan service from the guy, but what else could explain the parallel universe in Mirror Mirror?! That doesn't necessarily have to be the end though, just the prequel to Mirror Mirror. After that ep though, perhaps another Starfleet crew from the normal universe (Picard's?) could end up getting stuck in that same parallel universe, taking down the evil Starfleet Command and possibly restoring Kirk's crew after battling them. That'd be a good enough excuse to get Kirk and Picard's crews to face off and we could even see the mirror versions of Picard's crew....

I find it awesome (and somewhat funny) that WOK is really just a sequel to an episode. How glorious/ridiculous would it be if all this actually happened in the JJ movies, making a whole 10 movie long epic just to further explain and precede an episode before continuing it?!

 

[dahj]

but what else could explain the parallel universe in Mirror Mirror?!

You did not watch Star Trek: Enterprise?

 

[F. King Daniel]

I remember Simon Pegg making a similar comment, jokingly, when Into Darkness was released.

 

[Kor]

The mirror "universe" was an illusory scenario created by the Halkans, who, in true Star Trek fashion, were more than they seemed to be on the surface.

Kor

 

[uniderth]

Isn't this thread in the wrong subforum?

 

[Spock's Barber]

Isn't this thread in the wrong subforum?

It's in the mirror universe subforum.

 

[johnnybear]

You did not watch Star Trek: Enterprise?

Why would he want to?
JB

 

[Mytran]

The mirror "universe" was an illusory scenario created by the Halkans, who, in true Star Trek fashion, were more than they seemed to be on the surface.

Kor

This brilliant theory explains many of the improbabilities of the Mirror Universe - until DS9 came along and spoiled the party.

These days, I just consign myself to the likely fact that it is an artificially manipulated universe.

 

[Tenacity]

until DS9 came along and spoiled the party

Once the Halkans set the mirror universe in motion, it continued.

And just like the Abrams-universe, after it's creation it spread both forewards and backwards in time.

 

[Guy Gardener]

The Prime Universe Halkans were fine.

It's the Mirror Universe Halkans who needed to crack universes to save themselves, so it's more likely that the Mirror Halkans created the Prime Universe.

 

[Dukhat]

The Prime Universe Halkans were fine.

It's the Mirror Universe Halkans who needed to crack universes to save themselves, so it's more likely that the Mirror Halkans created the Prime Universe.

But if Kor's theory is correct, then there were no Mirror Halkans. They were the same guys as the PU Halkans. They certainly act the same.

Kor's theory actually makes the most sense based on what we see. There's no way that both universes would look exactly the same and have the same people, with such fundamental differences between the two universes.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

But if Kor's theory is correct, then there were no Mirror Halkans. They were the same guys as the PU Halkans. They certainly act the same.

I guess you missed how much more haggard the Chief Halkan looked in the MU.

Prime Universe:

http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/2x04hd/mirrormirrorhd0009.jpg

http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/2x04hd/mirrormirrorhd0030.jpg

Mirror Universe:

http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/2x04hd/mirrormirrorhd0367.jpg

It wouldn't surprise me if the Mirror Kirk & crew roughed up the Halkans during their visit.

 

[Dukhat]

He doesn't look all that different to me.

 

[Guy Gardener]

two random universes lined up, sure the similarities would seem unusual, but if the Halkans had a well catalogued multiverse to select from to create their ethical dilemma for any younger races at hand trying to take their dilithium, then they are far more wilier than it would seem.

 

[Dukhat]

But I don't think that having access to multiple universes was what Kor was implying. He can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he meant that the Halkans were just creating the illusion of a mirror universe to teach Kirk a lesson.

 

[David cgc]

What possible lesson could they want to teach Kirk? "Oh, you'll leave us in peace if we ask, eh? Are you sure you don't want to just kill us all and take our rocks? It'd be really easy! Maybe you'll change your mind once you see how wonderful our genocide could be first-hand."

 

[Guy Gardener]

Starfleet Uniforms do not need midriffs?

 

[Mytran]

Once the Halkans set the mirror universe in motion, it continued.

And just like the Abrams-universe, after it's creation it spread both forewards and backwards in time.

Maybe, but without further influence/interference from someone there's no way the similarities between the MU and the regular one would continue. Smiley O'Brien wouldn't just be some downtrodden human working on Terrok Nor, he would never have been born in the first place!

 

[Tenacity]

^ Depends on how linked the two universes remained, they're obviously not completely separate.

 

[Kemaiku]

The Kelvin universe is forever tethered to January 4th 2233 of both universes. Technically, neither "existed" before that point now, and as of Star Trek Beyond, a merged history now exists because of the reverse time ripples extending back to the Big bang. They branch from that point, in the same way that the Mirror Universe branched thousands of years ago as of In A Mirror Darkly.

Maybe that's how it works, each universe only exhibits what is unique to it in terms of energy, so that the net energy and mass of the multiverse and therefore the larger Meta-Big Bang is actually much less than we realise.