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What If? Players

BillJ

The King of Kings.
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What players do you think would've been great if the circumstances of their career had been different?

For me? It is Jim McMahon of the Bears, later the Eagles, Chargers, Vikings, Cardinals and Packers. Someone who simply couldn't stay healthy, but had a world of talent. Brett Favre before Brett Favre started playing. He was definitely a "football player".
 
If Grant Hill had not been injured in 2000, I honestly think that the duo of him and T-Mac would have made the early 2000's Orlando Magic akin to the Jordan/Pippin Bulls. Hill remains one of my favorite all time players, just a class act, but his career got marred by injuries and he never really got a shot. And Tracy Macgrady likewise never really got the team he needed (nor his cousin Vince Carter, stuck in Toronto through his best years).

for Football, my what-of been is Fred Besana. He never got a shot at playing qb in an NFL game, qb'ing for semi pro leagues throughout his best years. He finally got a shot at it, with the USFL in its waning season and proved he was a really good quarterback. But by then he was pushing 30 and while he showed up on rosters, he never played. He's almost a Kurt Warner but without the happy ending.

MLB: Satchel Page. Nuff said.
 
for Football, my what-of been is Fred Besana. He never got a shot at playing qb in an NFL game, qb'ing for semi pro leagues throughout his best years. He finally got a shot at it, with the USFL in its waning season and proved he was a really good quarterback.

Fred Besana was the Oakland Invaders starter for the first two seasons, before being dumped for Bobby Herbert after the merger with the Michigan Panthers for the 1985 season. Great player in the USFL that got the shaft in the end. John Unitas also spent a lot of time on the sandlots and was cut by the Pittsburgh Steelers before starting his run in Baltimore.
 
The classic case, for me, is Mark Prior. He was one of the most hyped pitching prospects in history (with supposedly a "perfect" delivery, even though his inverted W was destroying his shoulder and arm), and when the Cubs called him up, it seemed like a whole new era was coming to Wrigley Field: Kerry Wood was healthy again, Aramis Ramirez had been stolen from Pittsburgh (for Jose Hernandez :lol:), Juan Cruz was throwing fireballs, Corey Patterson hadn't been exposed as one-dimensional yet, and here comes Prior, just making batters look like absolute fools, left and right. If he wasn't blowing someone away with his fastball, he was getting them to drill themselves into the dirt trying to hit his utterly filthy curve ball. Dude looked like he had everything and was going to be The Guy in the Cubs' rotation for years to come.

... And then his arm fell off. Overuse in the minors and especially in 2003 in the majors caught up with him and multiple surgeries followed. In 2006, just a few years after his 2002 debut, Prior threw his last pitch in Major League Baseball. He's currently the Dodgers' pitching coach, so he got himself a ring, which is badass, but, still ... what a career he could have had.

Some other guys that come to mind are obviously Doc Gooden and Darryl Strawberry; both of them could and should have been all-time legends and had every opportunity to straighten themselves out, but their love of nose candy was just too strong, leaving them as mere footnotes in history as opposed to the deities of a minor pantheon they could have been.

Loath as I am to express sympathy for a Cardinal, Rick Ankiel is another What If? case for the ages. Absolutely dominant stuff and command, and then out of the blue he caught Steve Blass disease in the 2000 playoffs. It was like watching someone get a Chuck Knoblauch case of the yips in real time. Yeah, he was able to string together a few mediocre seasons as an outfielder (although he never improved beyond "newborn giraffe" when it came to his route-taking abilities), but if he hadn't had something snap in his brain, he could have had a special career.

Speaking of snapping, that just reminded me of Tampa Bay pitcher Tony Saunders. Regarded as a surefire thing despite already having had Tommy John surgery at age 20, the Rays were excited enough about him to make him their first expansion draft pick. And then in the middle of a summer game, Saunders delivered a pitch and then unleashed one of the most unholy screams I have ever heard. With one throw, he had broken his arm and torn pretty much every ligament in it.

Saunders was a gamer, though. He worked his ass off to rehab his arm, and made it all the way to a high-A rehab assignment to really get back into pitching condition.

And then he suffered the exact same injury in the exact same place: Shattered arm, shredded ligaments. He announced his retirement through his agent that very night. I remember watching SportsCenter that night when his arm blew up a second time and all I could think was, "No fucking way."
 
My choice would be Bo Jackson. If he hadn’t gotten hurt and if he’d have devoted himself to football, would have been the greatest running back in NFL history.

As great as Marcus Allen was, as much as I loved him, I completely understood the Raiders quandary when they had him and Bo. Marcus was an all time great, but Bo was a once in a lifetime talent.
 
What if Greg Moore had been at Penske for the 2000 Indycar season? If Moore hadn't been killed at Fontana in October of '99, would Helio Castroneves have had any career to speak of? Would Moore have done even more with that ride? I've always thought he would have.
Or, what if Michael Andretti had gotten a release from Carl Haas and taken that Ferrari seat in F1 in '92? Would he have held it long enough to benefit from Ferrari's mid-decade revival?
 
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