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What if Jadzia Dax hadn't died?

Yes, there were plenty of ways they could have gotten around the ethics problem. But then Bashir wouldn't have had as big a role in her recovery and would have just made it a B-plot Bashir love story.
 
Any Medical practitioner is barred from "Dating" a patient. be it a Dentist or anything, That's what medical ethics now says. As soon as he was becoming involved he'd have to step away as her Doctor.

That said I would have liked to see them follow up the relationship

And why is that? Why would a dentist be barred from dating his patient? That doesn't make any sense. And why do you put dating between quotes? Do you mean to say something else? If so, what is that?
 
Any Medical practitioner is barred from "Dating" a patient. be it a Dentist or anything, That's what medical ethics now says. As soon as he was becoming involved he'd have to step away as her Doctor.

That said I would have liked to see them follow up the relationship

And why is that? Why would a dentist be barred from dating his patient? That doesn't make any sense. And why do you put dating between quotes? Do you mean to say something else? If so, what is that?

Why? I am not a medical practitioner, so I've never looked into it,. but I do know that's it's not allowed, you can lose your license doing it. My understanding is when you are emotionally involved with a patient, you may not be able to make decisions effecting the Patient's Health.

as for putting Dating in quotes different people have different definitions for Dating. it can be an imprecise term. What some people call seeing each other, others will call dating, depending on the level of commitment.
 
Any Medical practitioner is barred from "Dating" a patient. be it a Dentist or anything, That's what medical ethics now says. As soon as he was becoming involved he'd have to step away as her Doctor.

That said I would have liked to see them follow up the relationship

And why is that? Why would a dentist be barred from dating his patient? That doesn't make any sense. And why do you put dating between quotes? Do you mean to say something else? If so, what is that?

Why? I am not a medical practitioner, so I've never looked into it,. but I do know that's it's not allowed, you can lose your license doing it. My understanding is when you are emotionally involved with a patient, you may not be able to make decisions effecting the Patient's Health.

as for putting Dating in quotes different people have different definitions for Dating. it can be an imprecise term. What some people call seeing each other, others will call dating, depending on the level of commitment.
It must be different depending on which country you live in.
 
It would be like Pygmalion and Galatea falling in love at the end of their myth, it voids the whole point of the story. Gratitude isn't a good basis for a romantic relationship.

You don't have to have everyone paired off in order for it to be a good ending. Even if you did want to pair him up, you don't have to look for someone out of the past. There are new people on the station every day.

Be that as it may, she seemed like a good match for him. And not every Pygmalion story finishes the same way. Eliza Doolittle ends up with professor what's his face, after all, doesn't she?

If you believe Hollywood, yes. If you believe Shaw, no.
 
He found a girl, a patient of his, who was an emotional infant and tried to mold her into the perfect romantic partner to flatter his well documented savior complex.

I agree with this. Most doctors would agree, I think. Not only should a romantic relationship not be simultaneous with the doctor-patient relationship, but most doctors think at least six months should go by, if they think it would ever be okay. Bashir didn't allow that. And even if Bashir got another doctor to be physician of record, it was still Bashir's experimental technique and he had to continue to be involved with her treatment. Add to that his partner's complete innocence, and the whole thing is just slimy.
 
It would be like Pygmalion and Galatea falling in love at the end of their myth, it voids the whole point of the story. Gratitude isn't a good basis for a romantic relationship.

You don't have to have everyone paired off in order for it to be a good ending. Even if you did want to pair him up, you don't have to look for someone out of the past. There are new people on the station every day.

Be that as it may, she seemed like a good match for him. And not every Pygmalion story finishes the same way. Eliza Doolittle ends up with professor what's his face, after all, doesn't she?

If you believe Hollywood, yes. If you believe Shaw, no.

Well, Like Uhura said: "This is fantasy."
 
I agree with this. Most doctors would agree, I think. Not only should a romantic relationship not be simultaneous with the doctor-patient relationship, but most doctors think at least six months should go by, if they think it would ever be okay.

It's not a matter what physicians think, but rather, a matter of what the laws of each state specify regarding the physician-patient relationship. In Wisconsin, for example, a mandatory period of five years is required before a physician may pursue a relationship with a former patient (the implication being, of course, that said relationships are strongly discouraged).

--Sran
 
Laws differ from state to state but even if it were not against the law it would generally be immoral for a doctor to pursue a relationship with a patient.

Or, in general, nobody should have a relationship with a person they have direct power over. The case of Sarina is also an exceptional case because she did not have the experience to understand a real relationship. It's basically the same as pursuing a relationship with somebody who fell into a coma as a young child and just woke up as an adult.

Dr Bashir pursuing a relationship with Sarina is far more immoral than just any normal adult female he just performed an operation on.

Did you notice that when Leeta was first hitting on Bashir, she did so by playing the role of a patient? Creepy. Ezri is the only non-creepy relationship Bashir ever had.

Although, Ezri did have a creepy element to it too. It's kind of like in Vertigo when Jimmy Stewart met a girl who looked like a woman who was dead and then tried to make her into her. Alfred Hitchcock said Vertigo was a movie about necrophilia.

Creepy!
 
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Although, Ezri did have a creepy element to it too. It's kind of like in Vertigo when Jimmy Stewart met a girl who looked like a woman who was dead and then tried to make her into her. Alfred Hitchcock said Vertigo was a movie about necrophilia.

Creepy!
:techman: If Sid had read this back then, you know he would have used it in performance.
 
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Although, Ezri did have a creepy element to it too. It's kind of like in Vertigo when Jimmy Stewart met a girl who looked like a woman who was dead and then tried to make her into her. Alfred Hitchcock said Vertigo was a movie about necrophilia.

Creepy!

Actually, he didn't have to really make her into her. it was her. In fact he never met the other woman alive, only her body after her husband threw it off the building.

Ezri did start by telling Bashir that if it hadn't been for Worf coming along, he would have been the man. Wasn't that a sign that they would have ended up together?
 
Did you notice that when Leeta was first hitting on Bashir, she did so by playing the role of a patient? Creepy. Ezri is the only non-creepy relationship Bashir ever had.

But both Leeta and Bashir knew it was just a line. They dropped the pretense that she was a real patient within seconds. Not a creepy relationship in my opinion.
 
Did you notice that when Leeta was first hitting on Bashir, she did so by playing the role of a patient? Creepy. Ezri is the only non-creepy relationship Bashir ever had.

But both Leeta and Bashir knew it was just a line. They dropped the pretense that she was a real patient within seconds. Not a creepy relationship in my opinion.

Absolutely, unlike other stuff, this is the kind of thing I can actually relate to.
 
How would Jadzia being alive affect the rest of the series?

The biggest effect would be not having to waste so much of Season 7 introducing and exploring Ezri when Season 7 should have been 100% about wrapping up the Dominion War and wrapping up the whole show in general.
 
How would Jadzia being alive affect the rest of the series?

The biggest effect would be not having to waste so much of Season 7 introducing and exploring Ezri when Season 7 should have been 100% about wrapping up the Dominion War and wrapping up the whole show in general.

But did they have enough dominion centered stories to fill up the entire season? I am not sure of that.

I guess the could have done more. What if it was the Jem'hadar that took over Vic's bar? Or the Vulcan baseball team had all been taken over by Founders?
 
The biggest effect would be not having to waste so much of Season 7 introducing and exploring Ezri when Season 7 should have been 100% about wrapping up the Dominion War and wrapping up the whole show in general.

But did they have enough dominion centered stories to fill up the entire season? I am not sure of that.

I guess the could have done more. What if it was the Jem'hadar that took over Vic's bar? Or the Vulcan baseball team had all been taken over by Founders?

The Jem'hadar don't drink, don't relax and as seen in the Abandoned they can't even smile. I think it's safe to say that it would have become the dullest bar of the entire quadrant!:lol:

If the founders wanted to influence the game they could have taken the shape of balls, gloves and bats.;)
 
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