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What if Jadzia Dax hadn't died?

Joe Washington

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What if Jadzia hadn't died in Tears of the Prophets and instead was injured just enough by Dukat's attack that it caused her to lose her unborn child? Would Sisko have still left resign as commander of DS9? How would Jadzia being alive affect the rest of the series?
 
Jadzia wasn't pregnant when she died. Bashir had told her that it was possible, which was apparently in question in a Klingon/Trill relationship.

That aside, realistically speaking - in terms of show pacing, we would have seen Jadzia possibly out recovering for a few episodes, or just coming back to duty by the first episode of season 7. This is assuming that the writers had her still actually attacked by Dukat, for whatever reason.

We could have had an episode where Jadzia and Worf head out to hunt down Dukat, which would have been plausible given what we'd seen of both characters before - but really I think that the attack, and even the baby angle was obviously written specifically to serve the need to have Jadzia off the show. So really, Tears of the Prophets itself would have been completely different as well.
 
I agree, the entire season ender would have been different, if it wasn't Jadzia being killed that put Sisko over the edge, then it would have been being cut off from the prophets.

It might have even changed the direction of season 7. Dukat would have still had to cut the tie to the Prophets, but the how might have changed.
 
I guess it would have been a completely different show. For one thing, she would have been on the ship, for Kor's swan song.
 
The show wouldn't have been that much different with Jadzia instead of Ezri. We would have lost the moment that Ezri told Worf that the Klingon Empire deserved to die. Dax and Worf's capture by the Gem'Hadar would have taken a different tone. But that's about it.
 
If Terry Farrell hadn't decided to leave the show, the writers probably wouldn't have gotten the idea of Jadzia getting attacked by Dukat. The Season 7 stories designed to flesh out Ezri would have been completely different episodes, and some Ezri-centric plots never would have been written. Jadzia might have gone off with Worf in the finale, or both could have stayed on the station, or there might have been a big tearful good-bye scene with them maintaining a long distance marriage. Julian's left without a babe.
 
If Terry Farrell hadn't decided to leave the show, the writers probably wouldn't have gotten the idea of Jadzia getting attacked by Dukat. The Season 7 stories designed to flesh out Ezri would have been completely different episodes, and some Ezri-centric plots never would have been written. Jadzia might have gone off with Worf in the finale, or both could have stayed on the station, or there might have been a big tearful good-bye scene with them maintaining a long distance marriage. Julian's left without a babe.
Maybe they would have brought back the genetically enhanced girl for Julian.
 
If Terry Farrell hadn't decided to leave the show, the writers probably wouldn't have gotten the idea of Jadzia getting attacked by Dukat. The Season 7 stories designed to flesh out Ezri would have been completely different episodes, and some Ezri-centric plots never would have been written. Jadzia might have gone off with Worf in the finale, or both could have stayed on the station, or there might have been a big tearful good-bye scene with them maintaining a long distance marriage. Julian's left without a babe.
Maybe they would have brought back the genetically enhanced girl for Julian.

Too creepy.

Maybe he would have met some dabo girl.
 
If Terry Farrell hadn't decided to leave the show, the writers probably wouldn't have gotten the idea of Jadzia getting attacked by Dukat. The Season 7 stories designed to flesh out Ezri would have been completely different episodes, and some Ezri-centric plots never would have been written. Jadzia might have gone off with Worf in the finale, or both could have stayed on the station, or there might have been a big tearful good-bye scene with them maintaining a long distance marriage. Julian's left without a babe.
Maybe they would have brought back the genetically enhanced girl for Julian.

Too creepy.

Maybe he would have met some dabo girl.
Why would it be creepy, if whe came back because she was missing him, for example?
 
It would be like Pygmalion and Galatea falling in love at the end of their myth, it voids the whole point of the story. Gratitude isn't a good basis for a romantic relationship.

You don't have to have everyone paired off in order for it to be a good ending. Even if you did want to pair him up, you don't have to look for someone out of the past. There are new people on the station every day.
 
It would be like Pygmalion and Galatea falling in love at the end of their myth, it voids the whole point of the story. Gratitude isn't a good basis for a romantic relationship.

You don't have to have everyone paired off in order for it to be a good ending. Even if you did want to pair him up, you don't have to look for someone out of the past. There are new people on the station every day.

Be that as it may, she seemed like a good match for him. And not every Pygmalion story finishes the same way. Eliza Doolittle ends up with professor what's his face, after all, doesn't she?
 
I like Jadzia and Ezri both, but seeing Ezri adjusting to being joined was a pretty natural progression for a Trill storyline, and I liked how Ezri was willing to call Worf on his flaws and was critical of the Klingon empire. There had been way too much fanboy adoration of the Klingons before that.
Ezri had a lot of episodes focused on her. At the least those episodes would've been something different. Much as I like Jadzia and Terry, I think Ezri's story arc and character brought in a different perspective that was needed.
 
If Terry Farrell hadn't decided to leave the show, the writers probably wouldn't have gotten the idea of Jadzia getting attacked by Dukat. The Season 7 stories designed to flesh out Ezri would have been completely different episodes, and some Ezri-centric plots never would have been written. Jadzia might have gone off with Worf in the finale, or both could have stayed on the station, or there might have been a big tearful good-bye scene with them maintaining a long distance marriage. Julian's left without a babe.
Maybe they would have brought back the genetically enhanced girl for Julian.
I almost mentioned her, but the problem with that relationship is Bashir committed a violation of medical ethics to do it. Even O'Brien warned him about it. I dislike the relationship entirely, because the writers make it play like a romance tragedy for Bashir, when he should have had his license to practice taken away. He took advantage of a patient.
 
I like Jadzia and Ezri both, but seeing Ezri adjusting to being joined was a pretty natural progression for a Trill storyline, and I liked how Ezri was willing to call Worf on his flaws and was critical of the Klingon empire. There had been way too much fanboy adoration of the Klingons before that.
Ezri had a lot of episodes focused on her. At the least those episodes would've been something different. Much as I like Jadzia and Terry, I think Ezri's story arc and character brought in a different perspective that was needed.

I think Ezri is the first Character I heard speak of the klingon empire as a normal person would or at least should. It was refreshing, to say the least.
 
If Terry Farrell hadn't decided to leave the show, the writers probably wouldn't have gotten the idea of Jadzia getting attacked by Dukat. The Season 7 stories designed to flesh out Ezri would have been completely different episodes, and some Ezri-centric plots never would have been written. Jadzia might have gone off with Worf in the finale, or both could have stayed on the station, or there might have been a big tearful good-bye scene with them maintaining a long distance marriage. Julian's left without a babe.
Maybe they would have brought back the genetically enhanced girl for Julian.
I almost mentioned her, but the problem with that relationship is Bashir committed a violation of medical ethics to do it. Even O'Brien warned him about it. I dislike the relationship entirely, because the writers make it play like a romance tragedy for Bashir, when he should have had his license to practice taken away. He took advantage of a patient.
I don't know. first, it's not clear if he even slept with her. Second, he isn't a psychiatrist, so there's no ethical problem there. Because if you go there you could sue a dentist or a podiatrist for going out with their patients.

Or what about Melora then?
 
If Terry Farrell hadn't decided to leave the show, the writers probably wouldn't have gotten the idea of Jadzia getting attacked by Dukat. The Season 7 stories designed to flesh out Ezri would have been completely different episodes, and some Ezri-centric plots never would have been written. Jadzia might have gone off with Worf in the finale, or both could have stayed on the station, or there might have been a big tearful good-bye scene with them maintaining a long distance marriage. Julian's left without a babe.
Maybe they would have brought back the genetically enhanced girl for Julian.
I almost mentioned her, but the problem with that relationship is Bashir committed a violation of medical ethics to do it. Even O'Brien warned him about it. I dislike the relationship entirely, because the writers make it play like a romance tragedy for Bashir, when he should have had his license to practice taken away. He took advantage of a patient.

I think that's only true if she was still his patient. After the initial procedure, and them realizing how they felt, the check-ups and standard medical stuff could be done by any doctor really. And if she was no longer patient, I don't think there's a problem.
 
I think that's only true if she was still his patient. After the initial procedure, and them realizing how they felt, the check-ups and standard medical stuff could be done by any doctor really. And if she was no longer patient, I don't think there's a problem.
If she's no longer under his care, I don't think there's a violation, but they seemed to be dating when he made the initial breakthrough. It still seems a questionable area to me though, since she had been a victim of severe emotional and sociological problems. The initial episode caused me to dislike Bashir, it seemed to me like one of the stupidest things he'd ever done. Maybe medical ethics are different in the 24th century.

I don't know. first, it's not clear if he even slept with her. Second, he isn't a psychiatrist, so there's no ethical problem there. Because if you go there you could sue a dentist or a podiatrist for going out with their patients.
He doesn't have to sleep with her for it to be an ethics problem. The patient is suffering from what seems like emotional problems, he becomes one of the most important people in her life in the treatment process, and he starts setting up dates with her. He's not a psychiatrist, but he's taking the role of one in treating her.

Or what about Melora then?
Melora's irrelevant. She didn't have an actual medical condition, the station gravity was higher than her natural environment.
 
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...He doesn't have to sleep with her for it to be an ethics problem. The patient is suffering from what seems like emotional problems, he becomes one of the most important people in her life in the treatment process, and he starts setting up dates with her. He's not a psychiatrist, but he's taking the role of one in treating her....

...Melora's irrelevant. She didn't have an actual medical condition, the station gravity was higher than her natural environment...

I disagree, a brain surgeon, which he sort of was to her, is definitely not a psychiatrist, in fact she should have had a real psychologist taking care of that part of her treatment, if it was needed. So I don't see any ethical problem there.

It would have been different if the male version of Deanna or Ezri had gotten involved with her though, or female version in the unlikely case they decided to introduce gay people that were regular persons in the ST reality, fat chance of that happening though.

Melora isn't that different, she was a patient that he treated surgically and got involved with at the same time.
 
Any Medical practitioner is barred from "Dating" a patient. be it a Dentist or anything, That's what medical ethics now says. As soon as he was becoming involved he'd have to step away as her Doctor.

That said I would have liked to see them follow up the relationship
 
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