What happened to Iron Man 2?

[C.E. Evans]

I think Jay-Z said it best "It's on to the next one..."

I believe there would be more talk about Iron Man 2 if it didn't meet expectations, IMO. But then I also believe that some movies aren't going to generate a lot of discussion. How much can one talk about a man who flies around in an armored suit?

 

[Pingfah]

Tony stumbling around and acting like a teenager is kind of how he is during the "Demon in the Bottle" storyline that fans bring up.

Well like I said, I haven't read the comics and neither have half the people who went to see the film. That it is consistent with the comics is neither here nor there, the narrative should make sense for everyone watching the film, not just those that have read the comics.

I had no problem with that...also not to take a shot at you but you do remember that he was acting that way because he thought he was going to die and wasn't telling anyone about that right?

Yes, I recall, I still thought it was out of character for what they had established in the first film.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

This is what Im trying to say. It seems that the first one was such a media darling and the 2nd one just seems like its disappeared? I cannot see how the 2nd movie has made more money than the first unless they are figuring in the 3-D and other higher ticket prices...

Because people talk less about it doesn't mean they didn't see it or didn't like it - just that it's less remarkable in the sense of not being novel or different.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

This is what Im trying to say. It seems that the first one was such a media darling and the 2nd one just seems like its disappeared? I cannot see how the 2nd movie has made more money than the first unless they are figuring in the 3-D and other higher ticket prices...

Iron Man 2 wasn't released in 3D. It did get an IMAX release, though. Iron Man 3 is a certainty.

 

[Shazam!]

Yes, I recall, I still thought it was out of character for what they had established in the first film.

When in the first film did they establish how Tony acts when he gets drunk after finding out he's dying?

 

[Dream]

What happened with LOTR? No one starts topics about it anymore. It's a bomb!

 

[Nick Ryder]

Key of Awesome kinda summed it up though - although not for me, I still talk about IM2...

"Iron Man 2! It's like Chinese food... I really liked it at the time.. then just slipped my mind!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM43em82jfo

 

[Admiral_Young]

The alcoholic arc for Tony though WAS in character for what they established in the first movie...remembering him drinking in the plane with Rhodey on their way to Afgantastan and Rhodey comments on it? I believe that Favaeru has stated that he wanted to drop hints and pay homage to the "Demon in the Bottle" storyline as well as he used it as inspiration but not expand it or make it a focal point.

Also I wasn't trying to infer that you needed to read the comics to get that part of his character...it was already established in the first film and I think while over the top that fight did fit in with what the general audience already saw in the first film. There was already established tension between the two of them at the start of the film during the Senate hearing.

To the original poster...what in general did you wish us to talk about "Iron Man 2" do you have thoughts on the film you wish to bring up here? Or are you just concerned (for whatever reason) we've not been discussing about?

 

[Nerys Myk]

It bombed man. Marvel Studios is closing shop. Laid everyone off. Because of this they're closing the publishing arm too. Disney is pissed becuse of the loss they're taking. Might doom the whole Disney Empire!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Nerys Myk]

It bombed man. Marvel Studios is closing shop. Laid everyone off. Because of this they're closing the publishing arm too. Disney is pissed because of the loss they're taking. Might doom the whole Disney Empire!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Owain Taggart]

Tony stumbling around and acting like a teenager is kind of how he is during the "Demon in the Bottle" storyline that fans bring up. I had no problem with that...also not to take a shot at you but you do remember that he was acting that way because he thought he was going to die and wasn't telling anyone about that right?

Exactly. He went all out because he knew he was dying and felt like it would be his last time partying.

And as far as sequels go, this is an above-average sequel, especially in terms of comic book/superhero movies. It doesn't fall into the same trap many sequels do. I saw it again with someone who didn't think it would be as good as the first, but he came out of it feeling that it was just as good.

 

[Pingfah]

Yes, I recall, I still thought it was out of character for what they had established in the first film.

When in the first film did they establish how Tony acts when he gets drunk after finding out he's dying?

What a silly question.

They don't need to establish precisely how somebody acts in an specific situation for his actions to seem out of character to the viewer. They established his character, I though it was out of character. See how that works?

Nor did I say that how he acts when drunk was my issue with it.

 

[Shazam!]

They don't need to establish precisely how somebody acts in an specific situation for his actions to seem out of character to the viewer. They established his character, I though it was out of character. See how that works?

Nor did I say that how he acts when drunk was my issue with it.

They established that Tony likes a drink in the first movie. Rhodey even mentions it.

So, Tony finds out he's dying and drinks a wee bit too much.

All fine so far.

He then acts 'out of character' because he's drunk. The reason is right there. You see how that works, right?

If he wasn't drunk, you may have a point. As it stands, you don't. Unlucky.

You may as well have a go at red-Kryptonite-infected-evil-Superman in Superman III for being out of character with the Superman in the first 2 movies.

 

[Pingfah]

They established that Tony likes a drink in the first movie. Rhodey even mentions it.

So, Tony finds out he's dying and drinks a wee bit too much.

All fine so far.

Well, that's your opinion. I thought they made him out to be a self pitying wanker, not at all how I would have expected the strong character from the first film to react. But you disagree, and that's fine.

He then acts 'out of character' because he's drunk. The reason is right there. You see how that works, right?

If he wasn't drunk, you may have a point. As it stands, you don't. Unlucky.

Not relevant to why I thought it was out of character, as I already said.

 

[Admiral_Young]

You said that Tony drinking and acting like a self pitying teenager was out of character to the portrayal of Tony in the first movie. Um did you WATCH "Iron Man" in the first place? I don't mind that you have a opinion that differs from mine but your explaination of why doesn't make sense. Tony was a womanizing, easy going, carefree person in the first movie with a penchant for enjoying a good drink or two a subject that concerned his best friend who comments on it while they're in the jet plane ride to Afghanistan.

While the fight sequence during his birthday party might have been over the top IMO it isn't out of character since Tony thinks he's dying is going OUT OF CONTROL on purpose. No one else knows about his condition and they just think Tony is acting out. It's well within the confines of what we know about Tony.

 

[marillion]

I guess Im talking about how nobodies really talking about it like they did the first one. No news stories, basically its fallen off the face of the earth.
Is that because people didnt like the story or the execution? Or is Iron man 3 DOA???

I think it's just because there are already a plethera of new movies out and upcoming. It's a fantastic movie and IM III is almost a certainty... I swear to God it is, man...

Now.. How about some of that discount gas?

 

[Admiral_Young]

Iron Man 3 has been pretty much confirmed as happening by Favs with the possibility of the Mandarin finally showing up but won't happen until after "The Avengers".

 

[Gaith]

While the fight sequence during his birthday party might have been over the top IMO it isn't out of character since Tony thinks he's dying is going OUT OF CONTROL on purpose.

I wonder what Jarvis is doing during that fight. I guess it can't directly go against anything Tony says, or it'd have deactivated his suit...

 

[Admiral_Young]

Unless Tony had already disabled Jarvis by that point...

 

[Nick Ryder]

Well I took it as being that Tony basically gave Jarvis the command that Rhodey would inherit his Iron Man suits when he died and the system saw him as an authorized user. After all THIS Jarvis is a computer, not a pudgy old butler. And Tony was kinda out of control, granted I think Rhodey went to fight mode a little fast, but... how do you non violently tell a drunk guy who actually created the damn suits to 'sit down and chill out?' I think it would have helped slightly if when we next saw Tony in the donut, he was recovering from an alcoholic blackout and only vaguely remembered anything he did.

Of course I think Tony forgave Rhodey a bit too quickly, but... he did help save his life again and well got the USAF off his ass for not giving them an Iron Man. I could see in IM3 that Rhodes will be the "U.S. War Machine" as Rhodes IS a colonel and probably the only one really qualified to deal with military threats. Leaving Tony to deal with super powered nutjobs in armor and powers.